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Dog having seizures

Discussion in 'Dog Health and Nutrition' started by Dubuss, May 21, 2019.


  1. Dubuss

    Dubuss PetForums Member

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    Hello all,
    I posted a lot on here a few years ago when my Labrador was having a lot of tummy troubles. A lot has happened since then, his large intestine twisted, had some life saving surgery and touch wood, his tummy troubles have disappeared.

    However, at the end of February he had a seizure. This was when he was out on a walk. He had another seizure 3 weeks ago and another tonight. These were both at home, early evening. They’ve all been grand mal type seizures, foaming at mouth and severe twitching etc.The only similarities I can figure out as all 3 happened on Tuesdays, when it’s been pretty warm and when our motorbike has been out ridden. The motorbike hasn’t been used at any other times. As you can see racking my brains for some connection if there is one, however strange!

    He has had some preliminary tests and his bloods were all normal, except one thing- not sure which, but that’s been a little higher than normal for at least 6 months as it was the same on his previous bloods. Thing is he’s 8, vet reckons it’s epilepsy and not worth medicating at the moment as they happen infrequently. Most research I’ve come across is that epilepsy usually develops by the time a dog is 5/6 years. I’m considering an mri scan as vet said this would reveal possible brain tumour if that is the cause (he is insured). I’m now worried they will appear more and more frequently.

    Thanks for reading, just after any experiences of this.
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    My dog old dog was diagnosed with epilepsy when he was about 3/4 years old approximately. Rescue so no guarantee of age.

    At the time we were young, naive and didn't have insurance it was approximately 20 years ago.

    His seizures were always grand mall and he did end up on medication. He was classed as a typical of an epileptic dog with the time it began etc being the most common. Although that was never to say that epilepsy can't begin at any age all be it rarer. It doesn't discriminate or read text books.

    After a few years, his eye seemed to turn out slightly. Our vet said this could be due seizures or an underlying problem such as a slow growing brain tumour. We could have had a referral to a veterinary hospital however my vet is fairly down to earth. The prognosis brain tumour wouldn't make much difference per se as he still had a good quality of life. He could go months no seizures, then have clusters. Had a pretty bad one or series of one's once where he paced continuously for a few days. That vets said keep an eye on hi. However now I believe they now use other meds which would maybe help.

    He came through and was back to his usual terrier ways, chasing balls, running up and down with my children in the garden. You really wouldn't think there was anything wrong with him except he would have seizures that were worrying.

    We did loose him due to the epilepsy when he was 9. Still young, but he still had a quality of life till the end.

    If your vets think it's worth the MRI, it's really up to you. As I said I don't know if that will make a difference to the prognosis unless it effects behaviour.

    Good luck with what you decide.
     
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  3. Dubuss

    Dubuss PetForums Member

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    Thanks lullabydream, MRI would either rule out a brain tumour, which I understand to be a common cause of seizures in older dogs, meaning we are still none wiser about whether there is a cause. I’ve been looking at dehydration causing issues- lack of potassium/calcium etc as when they’ve happened it’s generally been warm and his gums are looking pale like last time. Will mention that to the vets when I give them a call next.

    On the other hand MRI may prove the cause is a brain tumour, which ultimately I’d be inclined not to treat given his age and I feel quite uncomfortable putting him through a lot of treatment. I think I’d rather know whether it is something like a brain tumour, but will need to consider this was also mean he would be sedated. Some things to think about.
     
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    I was researching a different topic and I was literally just reading about how Bella Donna is very useful at helping with seizures and then I saw your post.

    Be mindful that Bella Donna by itself is very very poisonous to both dogs and humans, so I imagine you would need to get a prepared homeopathic solution.

    It seems because I am a new user I cannot post links to what I was reading (it is telling me it looks like spam), so maybe a mod can help me out with that!?

    I would be very interested to see how this goes if you end up trying it.
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    @Dubuss just had another thought due to the above post...

    Skullcap and valerian I believe some people swear by to help seizures. I can't remember the research, if any. I remember reading a lot about this although on the internet so maybe not the best source and ancedotal evidence as some dogs may only have mild seizures not frequently so it's weird to say medication helps or not. Always worth medicating if seizures are frequent though
     
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    We have just had a Beagle fostering with us who had her first fit aged 8 years and has had three since (over the last year.) The vet doesn't look to medicate at this point and she hasn't had an MRI, so the new owners are monitoring. When she was with us she did have a fit and it is quite unsettling but she recovered relatively well and we didn't call the vet.

    Sorry to hear your dog is going through this.

    J
     
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    1. We had a little dog who had epilepsy some years ago.His time in kennels was up after owner died suddenly (rescue place not available at the time,so when money ran out his time was up).When we went to pick him up,just after Christmas,we were told that his medication ran out the next morning.Asked what it was for and told he had epilepsy.We had no experience of this but made contact with the Canine Epilepsy Support Group,who had lots of information available.It was a learning curve for us but he was the most beautiful little boy.In-between his seizures he lived life to the full.I think the group is still running and might be worth a look.
     
  8. Dubuss

    Dubuss PetForums Member

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    Thanks all. He’s had another one about an hour ago- the 4th one, it’s Tuesday again.

    It’s been a week since his last now, he’s got an appointment at the specialist on Thursday as he’s now had 3 seizures this month and I feel he will continue to get them more and more often. Still can’t figure out any sort of trigger, only they always happen on Tuesday, didn’t time of day, on a walk, just after, in the evening. Maybe something is going on in his body and we might know more on Thursday. Just so heartbreaking watching him.
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    Hang in there, it's absolutely horrible watching them. It really is.

    Let's hope you get some answers, and some positive help
     
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    I'm sorry to hear he's had another fit. Hope the vet can help you get to the bottom of it. It is always so worrying.

    J
     
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    I hope they can find out whats causing them . My little chi started to have infrequent fits fits where her body gets very stiff and she cant walk but she is aware. They are infrequent so there's not much I can do. They tend to be in the evenings and its horrible to see her like that.
     
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    Dubuss PetForums Member

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    Unfortunately he had another one today, early evening. Vets said they are reluctant to medicate as he is seeing the specialist on Thursday... roll on then.
     
  13. Dubuss

    Dubuss PetForums Member

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    MRI confirmed a brain tumour sadly, we’ve decided against radiotherapy as it may only extend his life by 6 months (possibly more or even cure him). However we feel he would really suffer from the treatment so looking at just keeping him pain free and happy for the rest of his time with us.

    Finding it hard knowing that time will come soon.
     
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    I’ve just seen this thread. I’m very sorry to hear of the diagnosis. Give him lots of love and take care of yourself too.
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    Sorry to hear the diagnosis.

    Hope you have many happy memories together still to make together
     
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    Silverpaw PetForums Member

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    So sorry to hear this.It's so difficult watching them have seizures.Hope there are good times to cherish in-between and don't forget your boy won't be worrying about it in the way that you are.
     
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