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Dog "attack"

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by Magnum dog, Jun 9, 2018.


  1. Magnum dog

    Magnum dog PetForums Junior

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    My dog ran over towards another dog, not barking or growling, but the owners kicked her, she ran out into the road and then tried to get back to me, ran around the people, not near the dog but they twice again went towards her and kicked her even after picking their dog up.
    I am scared my dogs will be taken because they were yelling and saying my dogs are aggressive even tho they are just playful and i usually don't have them out together but they were only over the road for toilet break. They were both on a lead but the handles clip, as i tried to get my dogs lead shorter, i accidentally unclipped the handle but she only wanted to play which i understand some people don't have to consider that, but she was already away from the dog the second and third time they kicked her. There was no injury to the other dog cause my dog was not attacking. My dogs are always accused of being aggressive just because they're loud and playful. I know its my fault she got off but their reaction was not necessary. Dogs run up to my dogs all the time and I've never kicked them or accused them of being aggressive, i just put it down to dogs being dogs. Please advise
     
  2. labradrk

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    Unfortunately you cannot control what others do, which is why it's important to have your dog(s) under control. I understand it was an accident as the lead broke (?), however if your dogs are "always accused of being aggressive because they are loud and playful", this does make me wonder if this sort of thing is a regular occurrence? I don't know what breeds your dog(s) are, but with some breeds you don't get as much leeway as those breeds who 'look' friendly.

    I think the in's and out's of why they kicked out at your dog are irrelevant really, it's just important to take a look at why it happened and prevent it from happening again. Nearly all of these 'incidents' that occur between dog walkers can be avoided by proper management; using proper equipment, and only letting your dog off the lead in appropriate environments considering their level of training and temperament.
     
  3. Jamesgoeswalkies

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    My advice is get some training for your dogs and get some leads that don't allow them to 'run over towards another dog'. For the Dog Act 2014 to apply people only have to be fearful that something might happen....and people are clearly concerned by your dogs.

    I am sure nothing will happen this time around if there was no injury but I would steer clear of these people in the future and keep your dogs under control. Of course people shouldn't kick out at dogs ....but if your dogs are out of control this may well happen.

    J
     
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  4. Magnum dog

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    My dog barks at dogs who bark at him but only playfully, he's always wagging his tail and play bowing as he does it but my dog that had got up to the other dog was wagging her tail but not barking. I guess i am just concerned that they are accusing my dog of attacking and if they report it, my dogs will be taken away. I'm not a terrible owner, i didn't put the lead on with the intention of it unclipping but i don't want her taken away
     
  5. Magnum dog

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    The lead is one that clips round your waste but always clips as a handle which is how i had it, i wasn't intentionally negligent. I think its unreasonable to think a small lab wagging its tail is gonna attack. Like i said, dogs run up to mine and I've never kicked it if theres no signs of aggression
     
  6. Rafa

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    It may seem unreasonable to you but, you know your dogs are friendly, other people don't and some will assume the worst.

    As someone else has said, you have no control over how others react. What you must do is take care that your dogs are never in a position to run up to other dogs.

    It is highly unlikely there will be any repercussions from this incident. No harm was done and the other dog wasn't injured.
     
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  7. Magnum dog

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    I did shout don't kick her, shes not attacking! But they picked their dog up and kicked her another 2 times. I will never again use those clip leads unless it is clipped around my waist. I know some people assume the worst but after they've picked up their dog and my dog is trying to return to me, there is no reason to continue to attack my dog.
     
  8. labradrk

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    I see that, but if the other dog ISN'T friendly, that is where you have a problem. My dogs aren't dog friendly towards space invading dogs, so even if your dog was wagging it's tail and play bowing, it wouldn't change the situation. If your dog did not take the hint of it's own accord (all have done thankfully!), I may have to repel them myself. I don't think anyone WANTS to hurt a dog, but if it stops a situation escalating then sometimes you have to do what you have to do. And some people don't think they just react, so again, it really just boils down to being more careful in how you manage your dog.

    I don't know why you are concerned about them reporting you as it sounds as though nothing actually happened. It would be one persons word against the other, so it would amount to nothing.

    I don't think it's unreasonable because any dog can attack, and not everyone can identify dog breeds OR had good experiences with them. Labs are one breed that will have me RUNNING in the opposite direction with my dogs due to past experiences - and I have owned and like the breed! Just chalk it up to a lesson learned.
     
  9. Magnum dog

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    I understand their dog may not have been friendly but my issue is that even after they picked up their dog and my dog was trying to get back to me, they kicked her a further 2 times. I am worries about it being reported cause they tried to claim that she attacked their dog and is aggressive and should be put down...i reported them for abusing my dog tho cause i am hoping nearby CCTV will have caught the incident and see them running towards her and kicking her while she is trying to get away.
     
  10. labradrk

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    Again, stop worrying. I can pretty much assure you that NOTHING will come of this. It's one persons word against the other and nothing actually happened. I am sure in a couple of days time you will feel better about it all.

    There is no point analysing why they did what they did. People act in various ways that can make no sense to us. You can report them but they'll just turn around and say your dog wasn't under control and they feared for their safety. So I'd just put it behind you and move on......
     
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    I honestly think a lot of dog owners over react at the slightest thing. Was kicking and yelling necessary? Most likely not. However we only hear one side of the story so their perspective could be totally different.

    For a lot of owners and dogs, another bouncy 'playful' dog IS considered rude in that they generally lack appropriate manners and just barrel their way over to all & sundry. My dog just today took offense at a very friendly, bouncy Standard Poodle. The dog was doing nothing wrong in human terms, but was to obnoxious and OTT in it's behavior for my dog who thought he probably needed telling to knock it off.

    As @labradrk said, if you've had complaints before about your dogs being noisy or to playful it would suggest they are slightly to much or inappropriate in their behavior & greetings.

    A solid recall and/or a strong stop/down command could really benefit you in actually halting your dogs in their tracks before they charge up to whoever they like. That way you can assess the situation and determine whether it's appropriate for your dog to greet/interact with a passing dog or not rather than your dogs taking it upon themselves :)
     
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    Their reactions may well have seemed over the top, but maybe they and their dog have been attacked in the past and are genuinely nervous now of approaching dogs.

    I wouldn’t stress about any repercussions in this instance but definitely take steps to ensure your dogs aren’t in that position again.
     
  13. rottiepointerhouse

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    I can understand you being upset about someone kicking your dog, I would be too but I would be even more upset with myself for letting any one of my dogs get into the situation where someone felt the need to kick them or report them. I wonder if its possible their dog was unwell or recovering from surgery or something similar which made them particularly protective. I can remember when one of my previous dogs was very poorly with lymphoma, I was taking her for a nice little walk when this huge Newfie came bounding at us bouncing all around her with no owner in sight. I really shouted at it to clear off which isn't like me and when the owner did appear I swore at her. They weren't to know my dog was ill of course but just be aware there could be all sorts of reasons why your dog running towards theirs caused them to react how they did.
     
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    This was clearly an upsetting incident for all involved and I hope neither of your dogs have been damaged as a result.
    Obviously both sides could have done better, but put it down to experience and lessons learned.
    It's up to all of us to keep our own dogs safe.
     
  15. Magnum dog

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    I agree some dogs are too much and if the dog had attacked my dog, i would have taken full responsibility, dogs will be dogs and do things their own way, however owners shouldn't be behaving more aggressively than their dog...who btw wasn't aggressive at all and just brushed my dog off, and had she not been kicked, she quickly takes the hint and would have left...i agree more training is needed which i will work on but my main training with them has always been centred around not being aggressive and when socialising them, a lot of the dogs were also over friendly. It just brea

    My dog has also almost been attacked before but i threw my arms round my dogs throat knowing thats where the dog was going for, the dog endedd up biting me instead but i will still rather protect my dog and get hurt if it avoids having to hurt another pet if the owner is right there...that said, one kick and pick their dog up was a reasonable ish way to behave...its the other 2 kicks while my dog was trying to run away that i am angry and upset about. After knowing their dog was safe and mine was leaving, running after my dog to kick her a further 2 times is the reason i reported them cause that was unnecessary. A loose dog later came up to my dog and everyone saw my dog not react to it so i have more than enough proof and witnesses to say my dog is not aggressive
     
  16. Magnum dog

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    Oh for sure, i have taken responsibility for my side of things, i don't deny she ran towards the dog but the dog was also wagging its tail. His dog didn't seem phased, it didn't understand what was going on, my girl is my main worry cause she was rescued from an abusive home. I just felt it was best to focus more on my other dog that is very loud and boisterous cause dogs tend to react aggressive due to this. I have got their different leads out the drawer so i will only use the halti clip waist leads if its clipped round my waist.
     
  17. Magnum dog

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    I am definetely upset with myself but i know it wasn't cause i didn't have a correct fitting collar or not clipped her lead on properly or misused the lead so while i accept it was mostly my fault she even got that far towards the dog, besides foreseeing the clip handle might be unclipped while tightening my grip on my other dogs lead, there wasn't anything I'd really done wrong but i have decided to only use those leads in future if its clipped around my waist where it cant accidently be touched. But your incident, you said there was no owner in sight, for me, they saw i seconds away from her and if they hadn't kicked her causing her to run, I'd of had her already...but as i said, my main issue is not the first kick, but the fact that after they picked up their dog and mine was heading back to me, 2 of them ran towards her and kicked another 2 times...there is no worry for their dog at this point, it was just plain evil
     
  18. Magnum dog

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    I did explain to the police exactly what happened because they did not fear for anyonea saftey when they ran towards her a kicked her while they had picked up their dog and mine was trying to run back to me. There was shops across the road so i have emailed them and asked them.to send footage to the police. They will see clearly my dog was no longer near or heading towards their dog when they chased her and kicked her 2 more times.
     
  19. lullabydream

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    You do realise that a dog wagging it's tail just mean a dog is aroused. It's not always a positive reaction.

    It's a myth that a tail wag means a happy dog. It may do but not always.
     
  20. Magnum dog

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    Ok well no i didn't know that but my girl doesn't attack dogs, later today a lost dog approached her and she didn't react cause she isn't an aggressive dog. The person doesn't have to know or care about that but the fact they chased and kicked her a further 2 times is what I'm most upset about
     
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