Welcome to PetForums

Join thousands of other pet owners and pet lovers on the UK's most popular and friendly pet community and discussion forum.

Sign Up

dog aggression

Discussion in 'Dog Training and Behaviour' started by speedy21, May 24, 2017.


  1. speedy21

    speedy21 PetForums Newbie

    Joined:
    May 24, 2017
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    2
    Hi im new to this forum I have a 6 year old grerman shepherd rescue dog he is the most loving and soft dog you could ever meet till he sees another dog then he gose nuts ive had him just over a month when I first got him he was like somthing out of a rode ive been walking him where he meets other dogs I walk him around near dogs to teach him some distraction ive walked him with other dogs witch is working to some point but its the first time he sees another dog dose anyone have any tips to help him id like him to be abel to play with other dogs in time he wants to man up and be the boss right off the bat any help would be great I do treat him once he is in a calm state as after a wile as he will lie down then he suddenly starts again any advice would be great
     
  2. Mirandashell

    Mirandashell Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2017
    Messages:
    6,533
    Likes Received:
    7,605
    Do you know any of the history of this dog?
     
  3. labradrk

    labradrk PetForums VIP

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2012
    Messages:
    10,725
    Likes Received:
    12,914
    TBH a 6 year old adult male GSD is not the sort of dog that is going to want to play with random dogs, so I think you need to alter your expectations.

    I presume he is "going nuts" on the lead rather than off it?
     
    Lurcherlad likes this.
  4. speedy21

    speedy21 PetForums Newbie

    Joined:
    May 24, 2017
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    2
    Not really he ment to have lived with a dog and his previous owners tried to avoid other dogs he has bitten another dog then backs off he dosent go in for the kill so I keep him museld
     
  5. speedy21

    speedy21 PetForums Newbie

    Joined:
    May 24, 2017
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    2
    Both dosent mater if on the lead or off the lead its the same he no way near as bad as he was tho
     
  6. Mirandashell

    Mirandashell Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2017
    Messages:
    6,533
    Likes Received:
    7,605
    I think it would help for you to learn about canine body language. Quite a lot of it is about the ears and the GSD in your profile photo is not a happy dog. His ears look like they are back on his head. Which is a good sign he's not happy with what you are doing.

    There is a sticky thread on here about body language, I think. Have a look at that. There's also threads showing videos of dog behaviour that leads to fights where we discuss the BL that the owner of the dog didn't see.
     
  7. smokeybear

    smokeybear PetForums VIP

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2011
    Messages:
    15,187
    Likes Received:
    8,996
    Wow!..........................
     
    Rafa likes this.
  8. Mirandashell

    Mirandashell Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2017
    Messages:
    6,533
    Likes Received:
    7,605
    Another tip is don't walk him near other dogs until you work out what he is telling you and you get to know each other much better. At the moment, all his walks are stressful experiences and not good for him or you. Or any of the dogs you walk by. If I was an owner of one of those dogs I would not be happy with you letting your dog near mine.
     
    Lurcherlad likes this.
  9. speedy21

    speedy21 PetForums Newbie

    Joined:
    May 24, 2017
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    2
    I do get permission from the other owners otherwise I keep my distance and just keep him moving and distracting him from the other dogs once he hes walked abut a bit and got uesd to them being around he dosent bother with them and switchers off to be fair the photo was within 24 hours of me bringing him home as I kept him away from other dogs to let him settel keeping him away from dogs is hard when you live in a town when nearly everyone has one some people have said he has changed a lot in the last 4 weeks of me having him
     
  10. speedy21

    speedy21 PetForums Newbie

    Joined:
    May 24, 2017
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    2
    Got some good news got razzor within a foot of of 3 dogs just by puting him on a halty set he started to calm down and been distracting him on along lead with a whistle teaching him recall the best bit he started to calm down even tho one dog kept barking at him still needs more work but looks like hes starting to get there
     
  11. Mirandashell

    Mirandashell Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2017
    Messages:
    6,533
    Likes Received:
    7,605
    That's good news!
     
    speedy21 likes this.
  12. ouesi

    ouesi Guest

    Looks like a dog sitting on the sofa who heard a noise behind him.

    OP, I agree with @labradrk I would adjust your expectations. If he doesn't enjoy interacting with other dogs, just keep him away from other dogs either on leash and/or recall him before he gets a chance to get close.
     
    Lurcherlad and Rafa like this.
  13. speedy21

    speedy21 PetForums Newbie

    Joined:
    May 24, 2017
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    2
    Hes trying to figur out how to get to my cousin bugie. I know ive got along way to go yet but thers light at the end of the tunnel for him. On another not any one thinking of getting a halti lead id recomend going to your local b&m store as there on offer got the coller musel and lead for 16.79 for the lot
     
  14. Rafa

    Rafa PetForums VIP

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    14,446
    Likes Received:
    21,712
    What does this mean?

    Has it not dawned on you that he doesn't want to socialise with other dogs?

    You say he's already bitten, so why are you approaching other dogs with him, particularly when the owners of those dogs don't know his history?
     
    Lurcherlad likes this.
  15. speedy21

    speedy21 PetForums Newbie

    Joined:
    May 24, 2017
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    2
    He is kept at a safe distance and for him to learn not to be the way he is as he lives in a town that where ever you go you bump in to another dog so its he would kick off at a football pitch away now im abel to get closer than that and he calming down easier
     
  16. speedy21

    speedy21 PetForums Newbie

    Joined:
    May 24, 2017
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    2
    His previous owners tried to keep him away from other dogs and it made him nuts at the scent of another dog never mind seing one whats wrong in teaching a dog to ignor other dogs when there out on a lead as it dosent look good when you have one going nuts ive made more progress than his previous owns manged to do in 6 years of his life and our bond grows every day whats wrong in that
     
  17. JoanneF

    JoanneF PetForums VIP

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Messages:
    9,236
    Likes Received:
    19,737
    He is trying to tell you he doesn't like other dogs and trying to tell them to stay away. This is often based in fear. If he feels anxious, especially being on lead, he can't get away so has to put on an even bigger display of 'I'm big and scary, don't mess with me'.

    He will have an invisible radius of space around him where he feels secure . Find out what that is and keep him far enough away from other dogs that he is relaxed. Reward his calm behaviour. Gradually, over weeks and months, not days, work on reducing the distance. But - be aware that if your dog has had a stressful episode the stress hormone can stay in the body for up to 48 hours so a distance he was comfortable with the day before might be too close that day. So the safe distance can change, watch his body language.
     
    LittleMow and Lurcherlad like this.
  18. speedy21

    speedy21 PetForums Newbie

    Joined:
    May 24, 2017
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    2
    That I do but like I say if I bow down and try not to go near dogs hed never go out of the home im teaching him to ignore other dogs a the moment by walking towards then when his body language changes I walk the other way till calms down then repeat by doing this ive mange to get to be sat watching dogs playing and dogs barking at him and he has ignord them no dog is under any risk as he is museld and the people I train him with also have rescue dogs witch have had the same isue
     
  19. Lurcherlad

    Lurcherlad PetForums VIP

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2013
    Messages:
    24,045
    Likes Received:
    35,702
    I'd also be careful that the Halti doesn't simply mean he can't get away from what is causing his anxiety.

    The stress hormone is cumulative and he might benefit from a few quiet, stress free days at home to allow it to dissipate, then start again.

    Begin at a distance where he will settle and relax and then treat and praise. Slowly you can reduce that gap to a point where he can cope.

    He doesn't need to be a social butterfly though, so he may always prefer to keep a distance from most other dogs.

    He may also choose a couple of dogs to accept as a buddy (a fearful Greyhound did just that with my lurcher, after she was allowed to set the pace. We used to walk together but a good distance apart, chatting away, etc. until she eventually felt comfortable walking closer behind Jack for a sniff. He is so calm and laid back that she never felt pressured.

    She still can't tolerate most other dogs though, but is much less bothered so long as they stay outside her "safety zone"
     
  20. speedy21

    speedy21 PetForums Newbie

    Joined:
    May 24, 2017
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    2
    He never tries to get away I have to guide him away then once he calms down I treat him and prais him then do it again
     
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice