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Dangerous Dogs Act - Rubbish!!!

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by Magik, Nov 4, 2007.


  1. Magik

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    Ok here's one for debate - the dangerous dogs act!

    In my opinion it should be scrapped and replaced with 'The Dangerous Owners Act'. No breed of dog is dangerous! Dogs who act agrresively towards humans is usually due to a human mis-treating them and some point causing aggression born out of fear.

    So why is it the same breeds of dogs we hear about attacking humans? Simple! - The type of person who mis treats a dog is someone who gets one for the wrong reason. Usualy some thug who wants a dog as a status symbol will go out and buy a pitbull, rottweiler etc because they think these dogs look tough and have a rep! Any breed in a thugs hands would behave aggressive but they dont tend to opt for yorkshire terriers.

    I think it's time we stopped banning breeds and look closer at people who own these dogs. I'd be even happy to have to apply for a dog licence as an owner... whatever the solution banning breeds isn't it.....
    ......disscuss...........
     
  2. Esined

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    Here here, owning a pet is a dedication and training your pet takes alot of time and patience, if you behave aggressively towards an animal it is going to learn to protect itself or run and hide, if you train a dog to play rough then how does it asstablish the difference between play and attack? Same with cats, playing with a kitten using your hands and fingers is funny but when the kitten becomes a cat and scratches a childs wriggling hand its called aggression, how does the cat know the child ect was not wanting to play? a very good subject Magik!
     
  3. Stacey86

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    Brilliant views poeple lets have some more debates like this. It does bring up a very good point of just 'who' should be banned and what actually causes aggression in animals. I agree that this should be looked into more carefully.
     
  4. plumo72

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    I agree with you. I've got a staffordshire bull terrier and she's as soft as anything. I've also got a 19 month ols son who she's great with. I do believe it's the owners who should be punnished for nasty dogs.
     
  5. dh.dti

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    Here here, totally agree...

    Now where's my soap box! ! ! !

    I have had Akita's since i was very young, my parents kept them before me

    I have never had a problem with any, its all about training & socialising.

    Bad owners make bad pets, just like bad parents & asbo kids
    :eek::mad::eek:
    "IMHO"
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  6. bullyb

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    british bulldogs also get a bad reputation because they 'LOOK' fierce. the government have got them on the list along side other breeds to 'ban' which is totally ridiculous. my opinion is.. its the owners of certain dogs that should be banned, not the breed. its the way the animal is brought up. what do you think?
     
  7. dh.dti

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    ^^ totally agree!

    & the ban should be for life!
     
  8. Eolabeo

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    well said, i myself have kept and bred englishbull terriers and staffy bull terrier for 22 years, i was 14 when i got my first eng bully and from that day to this very day they have never ever once shown any signs of aggression towards any1 or anything, my children have been raised around this breed and all my dogs have been the best ever companions for them.
     
  9. Eolabeo

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    i will tell you something which really p'ed me off, reading this thread just reminded me of this.

    my sister walks her bully everyday in the meodows and many many people walk there with there other dogs, apart from the very rare odd 1 there is never ever no horrible dogs over there, they all play together nice.

    anyways my sister told me this story about a month ago.
    my sisters mates neighbour own a scatty red staffy girly, thy walk her over the same field every day, but that day this old boy was walking his dogs, lab cross or something, anyways the staffy and this dog started playing and after a few mins into play the other dog went for the staffy and the staffy retaliated back and with that the old boy panicked and tryed to pull them apart.
    he got accidently bit doing this.
    the police was called and they read the dangerous dog act out to the staffy owner and she has got to go court for this.
    it was the other dog that started but the staffy got the blame.

    alot of people know this old boy and this dog and said it always starts but people saying that meant nothing.
    all the police was interested in was what happened then
    ill let u all know how she gets on coz the court case is soon.
     
  10. bullyb

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    thats such a shame. terriers and bulldogs are always gonna get tarred with the same brush, it really riles me. when i go out walking with my two adult bullys i get a lot of attention. always one of two reactions....they love them or totally body swerve them. usually the latter. see trying to explain to people 'they dont bite, just look sour faced'. ive now given up and dont say anything, i dont care if they dont like my dogs. if you dont like them, dont look ...:mad:
     
  11. Vixen

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    The courts often give a "lifetime ban" on owning animals in serious cases, but like anyone would check?:mad:
     
  12. Carob

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    I also balme the media, you don't hear about the Yorkshire terrier who chewed of a couple of fingers from a child. You also don't hear about the fact you're more likely to be bit by a Labrador than a so called 'dangerous dog'. I guess a Yorkshire isn't as sensasional as a Staff, Bully ect.

    I've two staffies, both male and both under 12months, they are the cutest little things, full of love and play. Both are also quick to learn and very obediant.

    I believe this is something the governmant should reveiw and not give a knee jerk reation to.
     
  13. bullyb

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    here here.....
     
  14. Jenny Olley

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    We have an old chap comes to agility classes with his rescue staffy X boxer. After he got him he got a pet passport and jabbed up for rabies, so he could go to europe with him on his caravaning holidays, only to find out that the campsites in europe will not accept staffs or crosses of staffs. So he holidays in britain now, where there are no such rules.

    i agree the media hype things up with the way they report, if its a cross breed, its always reported as a staffy x or rottie x, no mention of the other part of the dog.

    I don't own staffs, but do have Shepherds and they can cause some funny reactions in people.
    Jen
     
  15. rottweiler1

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    I have a Rottweiler when I take her for a walk sometimes I get looked at really dirty even some people will turn around go back the way they came.
     
  16. Eolabeo

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    i know alot of people with them yorkie terriers ( not personally ) but i can say 9 out of 10 of them yorkies are yappy nasty lil things, and they dont get the name our staffys, bullys, rottys and sheppards ect get. why? coz their little?
    a yorkie can do as much damage to a child, infact my aunt used to own one and it bit my son on the knee when he was little, it used to fly out from under the chair and bite ya then run back under lol, sounds funny but it blooming well hurt.
    i bet ya more of them lil dogs have bitten people then any of our bigger dogs who seem to be more dosile to me.
     
  17. mell-e-c

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    I couldnt agree more. my brother has two and one is as placi as the day is long, and the other is a complete attention seeking diva who loves cuddles and kisses!!!

    Yet his friend got one as a status symbol, it killed a cat upon request and has been put down for it.

    I think its wrong, they are like children, you dont bring children up to attack people so why bring dogs up to attack people and other animals???

    Dogs can be kind, and terratorial at the same time, without agression.

    It probably take less time to get that balance than it does to stupidly train your dog for making you look 'tough'
     
  18. mell-e-c

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    Also, my aunt has a male german shepherd who is taller than my 6ft 3 brother when on his back legs and someone reported him for being dangerous, purely because they walked past the house and it was out having a tinkle. Just because its big doesnt mean its dangerous!

    He is the softest, dopiest dog going!
     
  19. Dawny

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    I agree with what everyone is saying, ban the owner not the breed. BUT, breeds can have aggression bred into them after a period of time. Such as the pitt bull for example. The types of people to own and breed pitts, generally speaking, would be the types to want them to be aggressive. Therefore they breed the most aggressive dogs to the most aggressive bitches. So you end up with a breed thats 90% of the time, aggressive. This can sometimes be changed through training from a very young age, and it has to be meticulous but a dangerous dog is a dangerous dog at the end of the day. And although training can be kept up and muzzles can be worn at all times, they are still dangerous.
     
  20. colacooler

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    Great post there Dawny, I think that's where the government are coming from.

    My next door neighbour has 2 staffy guard dogs, problem is they are 2 of the biggest softies in the world. I tended to stay clear of them due to the whole pit bull/staffy similarity.

    This being my first real interaction and they are lovely dogs!Terrible guard dogs mind!
     
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