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Dangerous dog act

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by rottweiler1, Jan 6, 2008.


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  1. rottweiler1

    rottweiler1 PetForums Newbie

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    What does people think if Gordon Brown brings this new dog act in that all Rotties, pit bulls, doberman etc will have to be muzzled and kept on leads all the time.

    I am dead against I have a rottie and I think it will be very cruel to the dog I have signed a petition against it happening.
     
  2. Brainless

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    I went to our country park and we passed two seperate Rotties along the path with my and other dogs going both directions and people with babies on their Sunday river walk, and no-one acted off towards the Rotts or their owners and the dogs themselves were just mooching along good naturedly, so glad to see that at lest the public down the river walk where most people walk their dogs were not taking the breed hype on board.

    I live in North East Bristol
     
  3. Solitaire

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    Rotties and Dobes have to be muzzled and on leads over here as they are in Category 2 under the dangerous dogs law, you also have to register them with the local mayor and Gendarmes, who have the right to shoot your dog if it is thought the be dangrous and out of control. The was a case recently where dogs were shot dead in their own garden while the owner was out. :mad::mad:
     
  4. Magik

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    that's awful!! It amazes me that people in positions of power do not have the basic intelligence to realise it's all down to ownership and they continue to genralise an entire breed...
     
  5. Solitaire

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    There have quite a few dog attacks over here lately but it's the responsible owners that get penalised as usual.
     
  6. garryd

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    there just trying to cover there own backs ! I like rottys but i have never known one that couldent be fierce towward someone if it wanted to ! the way they look at it is if a dogs that fierce then it should be muzzled !
     
  7. Solitaire

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    dh.dti because over here the French don't consider themselves bad owners :mad:, their attitude to "pets" is totally different, some thngs I have read would make you cry but I don't think they will ever change.
     
  8. sallyanne

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    As I have said before and will continue to do so the DDA/BSL doesn't work,it is a totally useless piece of legislation.It is unenforceable and unworkable.It doesn't get to the root cause of the problem,it targets the wrong end of the lead.Until the Issue of Poor Irresponsible Ownership is addressed we will continue to see dog attacks and still fatal ones.The DDA/BSL was bought in because of a spate of similar attacks in the late 80's early 90's yet has made no impact whatsoever,the evidence was there for all to see New Years Day 2007.

    We need legislation brought in that makes ALL dog owners accountable for their dogs actions regardless of breed.
    All dogs in the wrong hands have the potential to be dangerous,regardless of breed.

    As for muzzling in public,I don't believe in it.There will always be an irresponsible moron who doesn't play by the rules.A dog can't defend itself wearing a muzzle.
     
  9. garryd

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    but why does a dog as fierce as lets say rottie need to defend himself in a public place !:confused: thats a silly statement if you ask me ! any dog breed thats been known to be fierce toward people should be muzzeled by law !
     
  10. bullyb

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    i agree, i think any dog that has been known to be agressive should be muzzled, though i do disagree with tarring them all with the same brush...:(
     
  11. sallyanne

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    I don't think Rotties are Fierce,any dog whether it be a JR or a Rottie has the potential to kill,we need better tighter legislation that legislates for ALL BREEDS & making owners accountable for there dogs actions.
    I'm talking about if any dog was to attack it,It has no way of defending itself if it's muzzled.
    Dogs that are Dog Aggressive are not necessarily aggressive towards humans,the two do not go hand in hand.
     
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    im talking about any breed that shows any kind of aggression towards humans or other animals
     
  13. bullyb

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    yep i agree, at the end of the day owners are responsible for their own dogs, if the cant look after them and train them properly then they arent fit to have them in the first place and should be prosecuted.
     
  14. sallyanne

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    My bitch is ok with some dogs others she hates with a passion.She has been well trained & socialised since a young puppy.
    Take for example what happened to her,walking back from our walk,a loose JR run towards her & attacked her,no owner in sight,now if she was muzzled there is noway she could have defended herself.

    I have her under control on-lead at all times,I know she won't tolerate some dogs,but if my dog is under control on-lead I see no reason to muzzle her.I shout to other owners if there dogs are loose to put them on-lead.Most of them have poorly trained dogs with no recall.
    We have had many close scrapes - which none have been our fault.If dogs are trained correctly and kept under proper control they don't need muzzles.
     
  15. bullyb

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    i agree with you that they should be on a lead but as far as im concerned you could have the nicest dog in the world but if it has or has had a tendancy to go for other animals....muzzle it
     
  16. sallyanne

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    But Why if they are under proper control?

    Staffords are well known not to tolerate other dogs,it's part of the breed & history.I won't muzzle my bitch because she dislikes some other dogs.It doesn't make me irresponsible.The irresponsible ones are those who have off lead dogs with no recall, which by all accounts are poorly trained .ALL dogs should have reliable recall before been allowed off-lead.
     
  17. bullyb

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    all im saying is...if im out with my dog and you come along with your dog 'on a lead' and it goes for my dog (on a lead) then your dog should be muzzled, simple as that
     
  18. sallyanne

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    She wouldn't be allowed to do that,as she is under proper control all the time.As I said,she dislikes some, others she's ok with.She's usually fine unless the other dog challenges her,or is aggressive towards her. I can read her body language and I act accordingly.
     
  19. bullyb

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    i think on this one we are just gonna have to agree to disagree... what i will say is i breed dogs and strive to make them good, obediant pets. if they ever went or showed aggression toward another dog i would muzzle them.
    i think we should end this here, we are never gonna agree on this subject
     
  20. Magik

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    Animal aggression in dogs is a tricky one. I have socialised my dog from a pup with other dogs from a pup to try and prevent this and so far so good. However you can have a dog that is not at all animal agressive but he only has to have a minor tiff in a park with another dog and it can change his attitude towards other dogs. I've seen this before but luckily not in my dogs.

    I always put my dog on a lead when in a park if children are around. Ok I trust my dog with children but I shoudln't expect other parents to so I do it out of respect for them and think all dog owners should regardless of how your dog is around children. I think a good solution would be to have dog parks like they do in the States.
     
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