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Discussion in 'Dog Shows and Events' started by Kicksforkills, Jul 5, 2013.


  1. Kicksforkills

    Kicksforkills PetForums VIP

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    Here's where to put your critiques that you receive.

    Got Dexter's first critique back today. He went BPIB by default under this judge and then went on to win Toy Puppy Group 4 under a different judge. This is for his default BPIB.

    "Tri Dog, very alert little boy with nice ears and eyes, level topline and moved well. BP"
     
  2. Tigerneko

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    This is the last one we had for Mabel, it was from Manchester Sporting Terrier:

    "forward well mannered puppy, full of alertness with keen expression. Good well set ears when focused on using them. Clean cut wedge shaped head. Good bone well sloped shoulders, clean deep front. Good depth & length of ribbing, cut up evident. Moved true & soundly in front. In good condition with good pigmentation, thumbprints evident, correct dentition. BOB BPIS4"

    I am SO proud of that, I want it tattooing across my head LOL! We haven't had any for a while though, i'm waiting for a few more to appear, hopefully soon!
     
  3. Pezant

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    What does it mean by 'thumbprints evident' and 'cut up evident' Tigerneko?

    I'll have to go digging around for Henry's again, he's got a couple somewhere and we're still waiting on Bath to appear. All the ES critiques take bloody forever to turn up!
     
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    Can I hijack for a second with a question?

    Do only placed dogs get critiqued or all dogs in a class? And when/how do you get the critique if one is given?
     
  5. Pezant

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    First placed dogs get a critique and *most* second place but that's it, and critiques come from both open and champ shows. That's what's happening when you see the first and second winner kept behind by the judge after the class has been awarded.

    They get listed in the dog showing papers and online. I get mine through Our Dogs online, and other people here prefer Dog World. Both are subscription required, but it's not too much. £35 for six months or something I think?
     
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    Henry's critiques so far:

    Cambridge and County
    Promising youngster, nice head with correct eye shape and colour, good bone and angles back and front, moved well.

    East Anglian Gundog
    10 month old light orange dog. Attention to presentation would be to an advantage. Pleasing head with nice dark eye. Good bone and strength of front. Would prefer tighter feet. Good outline and tailset. Movement improved once settled.

    Chelmsford and County
    11 month old orange boy gave his handler a hard time, well proportioned head, nice dark eye, lovely expression, well off for bone, needs time to mature before he comes into his own, enjoying his day.

    I'm hoping Bath turns up next week, seeing as that's a Champ one.
     
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    The thumbprint is the black dot on the tan parts of their front legs/feet... as modeled here by one of Mabel's litter brothers :D the little lines on their toes is called 'Penciling' :)

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    I think the cut up is just the tuck in the chest that gives them their slightly whippety shape, I think!

    We are behind on a few critiques I think! Plus I have missed quite a few shows recently due to work so my dad has been on his own & half of the time I forget which shows he's done! Then when the critiques turn up in Dogworld I have to look through them all to see if she's in there!
     
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    Thank you :biggrin:
     
  9. Dober

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    I love getting critiques; I always flip right through the dog magazines in search of them and check our dogs weekly :) Dog world seems to be the best, I only get Our dogs (though wont be renewing) so I have to rely on rfiends to get my critiques sometimes.

    I always love seeing good critiques from judges who can really paint a picture of the dog in front of them, saying what they like and what they would like to see improved.

    Havnt had Aspen's breed critiques from Three Counties, Blackpool or Windsor yet, though we did get our WPG4 critique:

    '6 months Dobermann baby, really appealed my eye, such a typical outline for this youngster, liked the head, excellent bite, good neck, clean shoulders and flows nicley over the whithers, well angulated back and front, easy typical breed action. Sure to have a good future, handled to perfection by a young lady' :D


    Here is Aspens brother's critique from when I handled him and we won the puppy stakes (and runner up over the whole show from different days) at Windsor:

    'Although still naturally youthful. most impressive out line combines elegance with strength equally refined and masculine expression. Well shaped eyes,graceful strong neck. Firm top line.Well angulated hind quarters powerful movement. Ably handled'

    And here are some of the previous ones for Rupert:

    'Elegant black youngster with a noble, balanced head, correct planes, neat ear set, alert dark almond shaped eyes, strong underjaw & clean scissor bite. Slightly convexed lean muscular neck flowed down into well placed shoulders, ample chest, having straight bone into strong pasterns. Being short coupled on well angulated quarters on strong tight feet that crabbed on the move.'

    'There was much to like about this chap - not as heavy as 2.
    Correct head shape with dark eyes - high ear carriage that gave him an alert expression. correct dentition. Lean reach of neck into well placed shoulders. firm topline with correct tail set. Good rear angles , deep brisket with tuck up.Tight feet - Moved well when he eventually settled into his stride - handled well.'
     
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    Here's a pic of Aspens bro winning runner up on the POTY stakes for Windsor at just 6 months:

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    Isnt he just stunning? :D
     
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    He's gorgeous!! Aspen comes from an excellent family :D
     
  12. Tigerneko

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    WOW well done Dober - is that you handling him? He looks absolutely fantastic, shame he didn't win but runner up is equally as amazing :)

    Mabel's breeder made POTY last year & was the first MT ever to do so :)
     
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    Thank you, yep that's me handling him :D Their breeder was in the breed ring winning her 3rd CC and making their mum a UK champion!! Windsor was a fab show for all of us. He is such a sweetheart, loves everyone.

    We'll try and win next show ;) Congrats to Mabel's breeder, quite a feat!
     
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    Well, she certainly had a good day, didn't she! :D

    I'd love to get back into handling, i've let my dad take over handling Mabel as she is better with him, plus she is technically his dog! But hopefully some time in the future i'll be getting my Borzoi pup & my dad might be getting another Manchester next year (can you tell the bug has bitten us LOL) so I will probably be doing plenty of handling soon! I'm sort of enjoying not handling at the moment though, at most of the big shows we're on the same day as the Hounds so if i'm not handling, I can wander off to watch the Borzoi judging without constantly checking my watch! Plus I don't want to get into the habit of just handling small terriers, i'd rather gain my experience in breeds I intend to stick with :)
     
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    MB - (3) - 1 - M Crackling Rose at L - 3rd in the strong mpb class. Again a black with heaps to like. Good size, so well boned, lovely reach of neck and her head is ultra feminine with such good eyes. Well ribbed, strong loin and very good feet. Showed balance and purpose as she circled the ring.

    From welsh KC where my Aspen came 3rd out of more than 10 in MPB, then 1st in MB :) 12 points total now
     
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    From the same show that gave Dexter first in AV Toy Puppy and AV Toy Junior. This critique is for his default junior win in the breed class's (I think)

    Southampton -Caroline Odd -Junior - "8 months dog, overall a nice puppy with good head & body, held topline and well set tail. Need s to tighten in movement."

    Now waiting for a couple more :)
     
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    Latest from a breed specialist at a club show:

    Black and rust about 9 months of age, firstly one of the few girls with a superb front, has the depth and width to match. My notes say flat skull, moderate stop, coupled with keen expression, good reach of neck, high wither, firm slightly sloping top line, so eye catching when in profile. All bones of good length, would love to see her at a later date.
     
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    Great critique. Well done both of you xxxx
     
  19. Kicksforkills

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    Dober, you always do so well! Well done!


    Here's Dexter's latest critique, from a companion show where he won First in Puppy, First in Non-Sporting, BPIS and RBIS.


    "Best Puppy in Show and Reserve Best in Show was an adorable young Papillon puppy, well balanced with really good movement and loads of character. Novice owner will have a lot of fun showing I am sure."

    (I told her he was my first show dog as they were taking the BPIS picture)
     
  20. Emmastace

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    Awwwww.....that judge comes across as a really nice person. A mixture of positive encouragement and nitty gritty detail of why they liked the dog. I would be chuffed with that critique.

    Saying that, I think the ones where they are less 'nice' and just boldly give facts about why and where they felt dog 'x' was better than dog 'y' are perhaps more useful in that they tell you what you need to work on or disguise or whatever. I would find it hard to have any criticism of my dog though. They can say what they like about me as long as they recognise my boy as perfect.:D
     
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