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Crate training a 5 month old puppy

Discussion in 'Dog Training and Behaviour' started by LibbyW22, Jun 17, 2020.


  1. LibbyW22

    LibbyW22 PetForums Newbie

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    Hi,

    We have had our Chihuahua pup for 3 days now. Woman we got him off didn't crate train him and he's been living with his parents and siblings for 5 months. We tried to get him in his crate first night but he just barked and barked and we didn't want to leave him in that state and we also have neighbours joint on. I waited until he'd stopped barking to let him out and second night he slept in his bed next to our bed, I'm happy with him sleeping in his bed at night as there is nothing in our bedroom that he can hurt himself on and he's too small to jump on our bed. However, we're going to start building up leaving him on his own in the house and we don't want him to have free run of downstairs as there are wires he could chew on, also for his own safety as he is so small! He's also still chewing a bit so we don't want to return to chewed up cushions. I've got him to the stage where he will sit happily in his crate (I've put his bed in it) with the door open and he also ate in it this morning. Every time I try to close the door he either darts out too quickly or starts crying and barking. Am I rushing things too much? And is there any tips and tricks anyone has to keep him calm in his crate?

    He is also very very attached to me at this stage but seems a bit timid of my partner (male) still. I want him to warm to my partner too as we got a dog we can have together and there'll be times where I might be away and he has to be here with my partner on his own. Am I rushing too quickly? I know the breeders house there was no men. He isn't aggressive towards my partner, just shys away from him and will sometimes hide behind or next to me when my partner is talking loudly on the phone or walking around the room towards him. Any advice for helping this?

    Thank you.
     
  2. JoanneF

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    This is the best guide to crate training I know - it was written by Emma Judson, a behaviourist who specialises in separation anxiety, for the Facebook group Dog Training Advice and Support and is reproduced with their permission. The key points are not to let the dog feel distressed or trapped in the crate though.

    Crate Training - Step By Step Guide to A Distress Free, Force Free Crate Trained Dog or Pup

    Please sit and read this guide thoroughly before making a start, as it is important that every single step of this is carried out and nothing is skipped.

    It is also important to understand, before you start, why it is important to crate train your dog.

    Crates are often seen as a place to lock a naughty dog, or a place where dogs are left shut away for long hours, and it is true, they can be misused just like any other item of dog related equipment.

    However, properly trained, your dog can find being crated reassuring and a visual cue to relax and go to sleep.

    Crates can be used to aid in toilet training, dealing with fear or reactivity, introducing new dogs, in rehabilitation from illness or injury. Crates are commonly used in transporting dogs, in groomers and of course, in a veterinary surgery or hospital.

    Unless you can guarantee that your dog is never going to travel, be groomed, go to the vets, require strict and confined rest - something you can only do if you can see the future - then your dog needs to know how to handle being crated!


    CRATE TRAINING WILL NEVER INVOLVE YOUR DOG BEING SHUT IN AGAINST HIS WILL, THERE WILL BE NO CRYING OR WHINING OR SCRABBLING OR BARKING IN AN ATTEMPT TO GET OUT OF THE CRATE - IF THERE ARE ANY OF THE ABOVE SIGNS, YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS CORRECTLY.

    You will need:
    1 Wire crate appropriately sized for your dog with a bed or blanket inside - if you have a large breed puppy who is currently tiny, a small crate is ok for training purposes as long as its big enough for your dog right now.
    1 pot of very high value treats - try cheese, hot dog, chicken, whatever your dog likes best
    1 food dispensing toy such as a Kong or similar

    Step 1: Crate = Treats

    Sit beside the open doorway of the crate - you want the door to be wide open as far as it will go and ideally you sit to the other side, so you are sat beside the edge of the crate where the door would latch shut.
    Have your pot of treats with you and of course, your dog or puppy.

    Show your dog the treats if necessary, and then toss into the crate, one treat.

    Your dog should follow the treat into the crate to eat it.

    At this point, IF you have a dog or pup who has never seen a crate before OR who has and is generally ok with the idea, they will go straight in.

    If you have a dog or pup who has already been terrified of a crate or is generally nervous, they may not go straight in. If this is the case, put the treat right by the door and start with just rewarding them for approaching the crate.

    It is really important to note, your dog or pup CAN come straight out of the crate once they have eaten the treat - it is entirely THEIR choice.


    The rule is super simple. Going in the crate earns a treat. Not going in the crate, or coming out of the crate, earns no treat.

    Even the daftest of dogs can work out the very simple maths here - in crate = goodies. Out of crate = 0 goodies.

    Play the 'treats are in the crate' game for a few minutes - if you only get a pup zooming in and out of the crate happily for treats, that is fine at this stage. If you get a pup or adult dog who goes in and hovers to see if more treats will happen without them having to come out and go in again, reward that, put more treats in BEFORE your dog comes out again.

    Ideally we want the dog to hang around inside the crate, hoping for more treats - if he does that, he has chosen to be in there, of his own free will! So reward that, keep tossing in treats and praising your dog - but don't be tempted to shut that door yet!

    Step 2: Crate = More Treats

    Hopefully your dog was starting to think by the end of the first session or two, that hanging around in the crate might be an easy way to earn more treats.

    If he isn't, carry on with step one!

    For step two, sit slightly to the side of the crate and when he goes in for his first treat, start popping a treat or two through the bars (this is why we are using a wire crate and not a fabric one!).

    Your dog is probably still going in the crate and remaining standing, so now I would put in two or three treats, further back into the crate and see if he lies down to eat them. If he DOES, reward that with a small handful through the bars, ideally delivered so that he doesn't have to get up to reach them - lots of praise for this!

    When he is going in and lying down and clearly expecting treats to be delivered you can begin to pause for just a fraction of a second before doing so - this is the beginnings of building up the time he stays in the crate for.

    Again, remember, keep AWAY from that crate door, forget it even exists for the time being!

    Step 3: Moving Around - you, not him.

    By now your dog should be zooming into the crate and lying down and he probably won't need bribing in there with a treat, but he will still need treats for going in and staying in there.

    Vary the length of time he waits for his treat, so lots of times he gets the treats almost straight away, sometimes he waits for a few seconds or even up to 1 minute.

    When you are at that level, you can begin to shift your position whilst he is inside the crate. This means you can shuffle further away, or to the side to begin with, then shuffle back and reward him for having done nothing! (The reality is of course he has done a great thing, he's chosen to stay in the crate despite you moving!)

    Remember to move only a tiny bit, and move in whichever direction or fashion is LEAST likely to encourage him to move, hence shuffling rather than standing up at this stage. It's also important to remember to keep the time you spend 'away' very brief, so you may even need to just lean your body away, then back, then reward, before shuffling away.. then edging away...

    Step 4: Find your Feet
    You are ready for this stage if you can lean and shuffle or edge away from your dog in the crate, in a variety of directions, for a minimum of 30 seconds and ideally a max of around 2 minutes, before returning and rewarding him.

    Watch your dog carefully now, does he look relaxed and comfortable or does he look like he's ready to spring up and out of the crate? You want relaxed and comfortable so if he is looking anxious and ready to spring up and out, go back a bit, reduce the distance you are moving 'away' by a few feet, increase the reward too so that it’s more fun for him.

    It is really important not to skip this stage or rush it, because now you are going to be standing up instead of sitting by the crate and initially, you want to start out sitting and stand whilst he is in there.

    Wait until he is relaxed in the crate, stand up slowly and drop in a few treats by bending over. Then squat back down or kneel back down (you can sit if it's easy for you to jump up and down from sitting!)

    For this stage you are JUST going to be working on kneeling/squatting near the cage and then standing up and rewarding, and back down again. Do not step away from the crate at this point.

    Mix it up with work from the earlier steps, so sometimes sit and reward for him staying, sometimes sit and lean away, or sit and bum-shuffle away and back and reward.

    It is important that going in the crate does not become an accurate predictor or visual cue that tells your dog 'THE PERSON WILL BE LEAVING NOW' because if your dog has an issue with being left, this will be a big problem.
    Mix up the work so that sometimes the reward is for a really easy thing, sometimes it's a little harder - resist the trap of making his task harder and harder every single time because that leads to dogs predicting, and becoming sour to the lesson you are teaching.


    Step 5 - Stepping Away
    NOW you should have a dog who really could not give a damn if you are sat there, sat a foot away, bum shuffling around, leaning in and out, standing up, squatting down - all he knows is, he's in the crate and he gets treats for stopping in there, and that's GOOD!

    You should start to find that if your crate is somewhere available most of the time and open for him to go in, he is starting to choose to go in there even when it isn't a training session. If that is the case, randomly reward him for that, just walk by and drop a tasty morsel in to him, you could also offer him his meals or treat filled kongs in there now.

    The next step is to ask him to go in the crate and then stand up and step away, just one step, and then back and reward. Build that up over the course of several sessions until you can take several steps away, pause, return and reward and he does not bat an eyelid.

    REALLY resist the urge to shut him in there now - there's a high chance you'd get away with it at this stage but you could easily cause a problem if he panics, and the last thing we want is him learning that he CAN'T get out, that would make him fear the crate.

    Step 6 - Going Away
    You should not be starting this step until your dog or pup is belting into the crate, lying down, falling asleep in there, happy to eat meals or treats in there, offering you 'I’m in my crate' behaviours and is actually sometimes found in the crate when you were out of the room.

    So now for your training session you will start with your dog in the crate, reward him, step away, step back, reward him, walk around the crate, reward him, and step outside the door (ideally an internal door) or otherwise pop out of sight for just a split second, then back without much in the way of fuss and reward him.

    Repeat this and mix it up again, as we did before, so that going in the crate does not necessarily mean you will be leaving the room or going out of sight.

    Keep working on this stage until you can leave the room for a few minutes, you could leave and go to another floor of your house, or you could leave the room AND leave the house, all for a few minutes, and then return and your dog hasn't moved out of the crate.

    You may need to set up your crate in another room or use a phone or webcam to record him.

    IF at all possible, practice some of the earlier stages in other rooms in your home - this isn't always possible because not every home has room for a crate and space for you to work around it, in every room but if you CAN, it will really help your dog generalise that the crate is cool no matter where it is.
    When doing this, the golden rule is to step back down a level or two so that the work is a little easier, to compensate for the new location making things a little harder.

    At this point if you come back and your dog is NOT in the crate, I would say nothing or if you can't resist, I'd go to the empty crate and go to put a treat in there and then act silly 'OH THERE IS NO DOG HERE OH DEAR' and pocket the treat - this VERY much depends on your dog, some of my dogs would be 'OMG I SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THERE... DOH! and some wouldn't give a rats, but there are dogs who might be upset by this behaviour so if that’s the case, don't do this.

    Whatever sort of dog you have though, if you come in and the dog is not in the crate, then it’s likely you have gone too fast and tried to be out too long, or too far away - so the IMPORTANT thing here is, you make a note of that, go back a step or two and work a bit more on an earlier level. it is not the end of the world if this happens, no one died, so don't get upset and certainly, do not get angry.

    Step 7 - CLOSING THE DOOR...
    OMG yes really!

    So, now you should have a dog who loves his crate, wants to be in his crate, stays in his crate whilst you move around the home, hoping for his reward.

    Now you will go ALLLLLL the way back down to step one, but you will push the crate door closed gently. You will be sat by the crate again as you were at the beginning, putting treats through the bars of the crate.

    Here's the really important part - the split second your dog approaches the door, reaches out to nudge it or paw it or push it... you fling that door open FAST - YOU do that, you do NOT at any stage, ever, wait for your dog to try to get the door open themselves.

    So let’s say your dog approached the crate door and you flung it wide open for him - he has probably come out and looked at you like 'what?'.

    Say nothing, just give your dog a second or two and see if HE offers 'going in the crate' - if he does reward him, if he doesn't within a second or two then toss a treat in the crate and start again.

    What your dog is learning here is that he is NEVER EVER trapped in the crate, even if it looks like he is, you are opening the door and releasing him before he FEELS trapped - but there is no reward for coming out.

    Long term your dog won't care if the door is open or closed, because being in the crate has always been rewarding eventually, coming out has never been an issue and isn't rewarding.

    If a dog IS ever trapped in a crate two things happen - firstly, they feel fear, and they distrust the crate, but secondly, when they get out, coming OUT has then been extremely rewarding - because the relief from feeling trapped in there is massively reinforcing.

    By never allowing your dog to feel trapped, you also never allow him to feel that relief!

    Gradually re-work your way through all the steps with the door pushed closed - but really importantly at this point NOT LATCHED SHUT...

    You will need to stay near enough the crate that you can flip the door open fast, and work steadily enough that you are sure your dog won't try to get out before you are ready to release him.

    Step 8 - Locking the door

    So to recap, by now you should have a dog who will stay in the crate with the door open or the door pushed closed, whether you are in the room or you have popped in and out, or stepped out for a few minutes.

    He should be really relaxed in there and want to remain in there for the rewards you will still be giving him, and he should be used to some period of waiting before those rewards happen.

    He should never have attempted to get out of the crate by pushing, nudging or pawing at the door.

    If your dog HAS done that, don't panic, go back a few stages and re-do the foundations again and go a little slower. If you are keeping a diary of your progress you may be able to pinpoint where you rushed something or where something went a bit wrong.

    So to introduce the door being locked, again go back a few steps, probably to stepping away and stepping in and out of the room. This time, after a few goes with the door pushed shut, lock it, wait a few seconds without moving, and then unlock it, and carry on the session.

    I would NOT end a session immediately after opening the crate door, instead put a few instances of locking the door in the middle of a session with the door closed and mix in the door being open a few times - this means he is not predicting the door being unlocked and opened as either a release cue or cue for his reward and end of session.


    Step 9 - Increasing the time he can be crated
    By now you should have a dog who is totally happen to go in his crate, have the door pushed shut, randomly earn rewards in there, have the door locked whilst you move around the room, step outside the room and even the house, for up to around 4 or 5 minutes.

    Now you build duration for real, leaving him slightly longer sometimes - again try not to do this as a neat linear progression, do not leave him for 5 minutes on day 1 and 10 minutes on day 2 and 15 minutes on day 3 as the chances are he’s going to predict that the crate now means being left and that’s not fun for him.

    Instead, mix things up - so maybe he’s in there for 5 minutes on day one, but on day 2 you just potter around in the same room as the crate. Maybe on day 3 he’s in there for 10 minutes but you are in and out of the house (unloading shopping perhaps), on day 4 you only do 5 minutes but you are sitting reading a magazine and mostly ignoring him.

    The point is, its gradual, but it's no big deal for him, it's not a predictor for something awful.

    Because he has never felt trapped, because he's never felt any reinforcing relief at being released from the crate, it is not a huge deal being in the crate and the fact he CAN'T come out, at this point is totally irrelevant to him, because he does not WANT to come out in the first place!


    Beyond step 9

    It is a good idea if you have a crate and will use it regularly, to keep rewarding your dog for being in there even after he seems totally comfy about it. It's also a good idea to pop him in there for a minute or two when you answer the door, or when a guest comes in, or to give him a tasty bone - just so that he feels it's a great place to be, and doesn't mean you are going out.

    If you don't have a crate set up all the time, do be sure to get your crate out from time to time and practice with it, that way it is not a shock to him when a non-doggy visitor comes to stay and you need to use it, or when he has to go to the vets or you are going to take him on holiday and need to use it there.

    Never use your crate as a place to shut a dog as punishment - it must stay a safe and rewarding place and he must LIKE being in there.
    It should go without saying do not abuse your dogs good nature and shut him in there for more than 4 hours at a time (And it will take you some time, months with a puppy) to work up to that length of time anyway!)

    Do not allow anyone to tease or torment your dog when he is in the crate - we want to avoid him feeling trapped and a sure fire way to create problems is to allow someone or another animal, to tease your dog whilst crated.


    This all may seem a very long winded way of crating your dog, it's likely you are thinking 'but I could just shut him in there and he might cry but eventually he will get used to it.'


    Some dogs will get over it, and some just suffer in distress quietly, their stress showing up in seemingly unrelated behaviours. Some dogs very obviously don't get over it and will wreck crates and physically hurt themselves, yell their heads off etc.

    A lot of people appear to think a dog screaming and scrabbling to get out of a crate is a dog 'acting out' or a dog who 'needs to get over himself' - that really couldn't be further from the truth - trapping an animal in a small space is incredibly stressful if not outright terrifying. Even if your dog never associates that fear with you, it will have a knock on effect on his ability to learn and settle and generally be a happy, relaxed dog.

    I do disagree that this is actually all that long winded - if you are starting out with a puppy you can get through the first 5 or 6 stages in under a week, the later stages only taking longer because a puppy physically can't be left all that long.

    It may well take a little longer with an adult dog, but we are talking about 5 to 10 minute sessions to start with, a couple of times a day - it isn't anywhere near the huge undertaking it may seem whilst reading this through.



    Emma Judson - www.canineconsultant.co.uk
    Copyright Emma Judson 2014
     
  3. JoanneF

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    I've put my reply to this separate as the crate training post is quite long and I didn't want this to get lost in there.

    It's been 3 days, so yes I think you are expecting too much too soon.

    I'd advise you to have your partner ignore the dog - completely - not even eye contact which dogs can find quite intimidating.

    After a few days he can try tossing treats behind your dog, so he has to go away from your partner to get them - that means the dog won't be conflicted in wanting to get the treat but having to approach scary person to get them. Then your partner could try putting one down closer to him - see what your dog does. If he darts in, gets the treat and runs off it's too soon so go back to the previous step for a few days more.

    After he is taking treats happily from the floor by your partner, he could try offering them from his hand. As before if he is uncomfortable, go back a step.

    When it gets to the stage he is taking them happily, your partner could try stroking him but use the 5 second rule. Stroke him for five seconds then stop. Only if he initiates further contact by nudging you or similar, continue for another five seconds then stop again. Continue only for as long as he keeps asking. That gives him control and in turn that will build his confidence around you.
     
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    Thank you for your replies. These are both very useful and appreciated. I will follow these steps.
     
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    I should have said, when stroking some dogs prefer you avoid their head.
     
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    A bit of an update on him being fearful of my partner...
    My partner has been out all morning at work, when he entered the house he growled at him and was stood behind me. He hasn't growled or really barked at anything yet, I'm now concerned that his behaviour is going to get worse. We cannot socialise him around strange men yet as he's waiting for his second vaccinations so I can't take him to any classes. We will continue to be patient with him, but is think guarding behavior at all?
    When my partner is in the house, the dog follows me around at my feet and will often sit behind me on the sofa, when my partner is out he will freely sniff around the house, wander around or play with his toys and get on the sofa. When my partner is home, he sits right beside my feet or in his bed if its not near my partner. Seems to have gotten worse today.
     
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    It's only been 3 days, give him some time.

    It's a little more worrying that at 5 months, he hasn't been socialised and he has missed some socialisation windows.

    I'd suggest tucking him into your sweater and taking him out to start seeing things outside, but from a safe place. Don't force him to meet men (or any other scary things), socialisation is about exposure, not interaction.
     
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    As it’s only been 3 days then yes, you’re rushing him.

    Give him time to settle in a bit and adjust before laying down rules and boundaries.

    The happier he feels now the quicker he’ll settle and weaning him off you and crate training will be much easier as he’ll gradually become more confident and independent.

    I’d maybe leave his crate open with a comfy bed in it and leave some treats or a filled kong in there to encourage him to choose to go in during the day.
     
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    Thank you both for your replies. I got him used to sitting in his bed yesterday and have now put the bed and his blanket in the crate today and he hopped straight in, I rewarded him for this and we practised him getting in and out. I then left the door open and just sat working and he happily hopped in after a while on his own and was lying down inside. I don't want to rush him too much so will build up to closing the door for a short period tomorrow. He is also beginning to warm to my partner. We put a treat at his foot and he made no eye contact and stayed still and he went up and took the treat eventually, so we are making lots of progress! Thank you both very much!
     
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    I think you are going too fast.

    Closing the crate door is step 7, so that's at least several days ahead.

    And the fact he came up and took the treat eventually suggests he is still very conflicted about your husband. He really wants the treat but he has to approach your scary husband to get it - you really want him to be confident in coming for a treat, so I'd take a lot longer at the earlier steps I described above.

    Be patient, the time spent now is an investment for your future together.
     
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    As above.

    Better if OH tossed a treat close to the dog rather than put the dog in a conflicted position - wants the treat but scared of the man, if that makes sense.

    Dog sees man as a source of treats and may eventually choose to approach the man and “ask” for a treat once trusted.

    Again, don’t rush it.
     
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