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cost of breeding

Discussion in 'Cat Breeding' started by Taylorbaby, Jan 22, 2012.


  1. David 1994

    David 1994 PetForums Newbie

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    probably because she is buying it with some good papers or something, With a good pedigree the kind of cats that the parents have been to different cat shows and won some medals or something
     
  2. OrientalSlave

    OrientalSlave Shunra Oriental Cats

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    Utter nonsense. And why on earth is she buying one from abroad?
     
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  3. David 1994

    David 1994 PetForums Newbie

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    probably because she wants to have some kittens, so if she gets a cat from the other country it means that she has a cat with a different family tree and that makes it more interesting for buyers
     
  4. OrientalSlave

    OrientalSlave Shunra Oriental Cats

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    So you will have a first-hand chance to see how much money is in breeding.
     
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  5. Pappychi

    Pappychi PetForums VIP

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    Right... o_O

    So the only reason to import is so there is better 'marketing' o_Oo_O

    Tell me, is she planning to show?

    You chat chatters have been very stoic. A sh*t show would have kicked off by now in dog chat. :p
     
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  6. David 1994

    David 1994 PetForums Newbie

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    is there anything wrong with that ?
     
  7. QOTN

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    Do you know Sasha's dad?
     
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  8. David 1994

    David 1994 PetForums Newbie

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    No I dont
     
  9. QOTN

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    We do!
     
  10. David 1994

    David 1994 PetForums Newbie

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    What do you mean ? who is Sasha?
     
  11. lymorelynn

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    I can only say good luck to your mother @David 1994 - I am assuming the £1000 she has paid for her cats has been for ones on the active register if she is intending to breed. If there people paying that sort of money for non-active, pet quality kittens (and I don't agree with charging over the odds for active registered ones!) - there is a saying about fools and their money being easily parted.
    I do know of one person who makes living from their cats but they also run a successful cattery and grooming business too.
     
  12. ZaraFold Cattery

    ZaraFold Cattery PetForums Newbie

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    Good afternoon.
    I would like to ask for breeders help. I'm new ... Only recently opened cattery. Advise me please not too expensive and good insurance for my cattery.
    Thank you in advance.
     
  13. OrientalSlave

    OrientalSlave Shunra Oriental Cats

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    What country are you in and what are you wanting to insure? Not many companies will do insurance for breeding queens. Personally I have never insured my cats (been a cat slave for 25 years), and I'm well ahead of if I had insured. However I've not had a cat need a C-section, and I don't use an expensive vet.
     
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    I absolutely adore this piece!!! Thank you so much writing it! The poem brought tears to my eyes!
     
  15. Leah1986

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    Animal welfare is what matters. Yes don't be a breeder, if it doesn't make a profit, but why be a breeder at all. :)
     
  16. anachronism

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    Because people want health tested pedigree animals?
     
  17. Rufus15

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    Ethical breeders care about animal welfare. That's why they breed; to produce healthy, gene tested kittens.
     
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    very informative very well written, very well explained
     
  19. Anjayma Tonks&MaineCoons

    Anjayma Tonks&MaineCoons PetForums Newbie

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    Re vaccines, one thing people often don't understand is that vaccines can be "live" vaccines, or inactive ones. My old vet used "live" (active) vaccine, and my kittens got sick afterwards with cat-flu symptoms every single time. After a while I worked out that it was the vaccination causing the symptoms, so changed to an inactive vaccine (I use Fevac F3), and have had no problems since.

    I'm in Australia, so Rabies vaccine isn't used here, since we don't have rabies.

    I don't use F5 (FELV/FIV) vaccine, since my cat's aren't allowed to roam and all are negative, so it's not really necessary to vaccinate them against it. I advise my customers that F3 is sufficient unless they're going to allow their cats outside, in which case they should vax for FELV/FIV, BUT not to use F5 vaccine until cats are at least 6 months old, since it's been known to cause liver failure in kittens.

    For my cat runs, I've "double wired" them, so that any cats coming into my yard can't fight with/bite my cats through the wire and cause a possible FIV/FELV infection (or bite abscess!). I mention the runs because I did have that happen many years ago, when the runs only had a single layer of mesh - fortunately it only caused a bite abscess, no FIV/FELV infection. It's something breeders with single-wire mesh runs should be aware of.

    As for the financial cost of breeding, I've worked out it costs approximately AUD$500-600 per kitten to raise a litter of kittens. That's for the usual expenses of food, litter, vaccinations, flea/worming, microchipping, desexing, vet check, club registration for kitten, advertising. If there are extra-ordinary expenses like additional vet visits for queen and/or kittens, c-section, stud fee if using another breeders stud, etc, that cost obviously increases. So I make a "profit" of around $250 per kitten, assuming no extra-ordinary expenses. I don't take cost of water, power, petrol or time into account.

    BUT....

    That $250 per kitten profit gets spent on keeping my 13 adult cats for the year - food, litter, flea/worm, vaccinate, vet check, club registration & membership fees, Local Council pet registration, Local Council Permit (to keep more animals than allowed without permit), replacement of cat trees, bedding & run-furniture as required, cleaning products, and so on. Again, I don't take cost of water, power, petrol or time into account in maintaining adults for the year.

    I also don't count expenses for showing the cats - I regard that as a completely separate hobby, so I can delude myself into believing I still make a tiny profit on the breeding "hobby" hehehe

    I've been breeding & exhibiting cats for 12 years, and dogs for 20 years before that. Also at various times rabbits, rare-breed poultry, parrots ... A vocation indeed :)
     

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  20. Anjayma Tonks&MaineCoons

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    Oh, and I completely forgot about the cost of DNA testing all my breeding animals, and any kittens I'm keeping, and any kittens I'm selling for breeding/show, and for my Maine Coons hip-scoring at 1yo and heart ultra-sound to check for HCM every few years.... add that on to the list of expenses, lol. Plus buying a new stud once every few years.
     
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