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Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by JoshSkewes123, Oct 26, 2012.


  1. JoshSkewes123

    JoshSkewes123 PetForums Newbie

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    Okay, so I'm looking into getting a Samoyed husky x Japanese Akita, I've done ALOT of research on both breeds. I've been to the house and seen both the parents, they are healthy, and I was surprised with the reaction of them, they weren't aggressive, they were well natured dogs. They were very well trained. Has any had experience with this cross breed? I know Japanese Akita have bad reputations because of their temperament, but the one I've visited on more than one occasion is perfectly fine. Any replies would be amazing
     
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    Phoolf PetForums VIP

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    From the sounds of it you were expecting an aggressive greeting when you visited? If so what draws you to this breed exactly?

    From my experience of Akita's they are not very aggressive, they are very aloof with people and dogs in general and if not socialised well like any dog breed they can become aggressive, nervous or fearful but the temperament should be friendly, just not overly so.
     
  3. JoshSkewes123

    JoshSkewes123 PetForums Newbie

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    Yes I was to be honest, I was expecting it to be very protective. But it was fine! I've had experience with other dogs, so I'm not worried about having too work hard. I know the Samoyed Husky is an extremely nice dog, it just seem's like a bit of a mix match of breeds because of temperament. I love how smart and loyal they are, and how active they are. I love smart dogs, but sometimes a dog can be too smart which worries me.
     
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    To be honest if you want a guardian you're barking up the wrong tree with a husky mix. Huskys are the worst guard/protection dogs out there, they have zero guardian instincts.
     
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    You say 'healthy' but have the parents been health tested? What was the reason they decided to cross these 3 breeds?
    Why were you expecting Akitas to be aggressive, as like Phoolf says they can be an aloof breed, but any signs of aggression & the dog shouldn't be bred from.
    Due to the breeds involved in the mix it's doubtful you will be able to let it off lead unless they are in a very secure area as Northern breeds are expert escapologists, have high prey drive & unreliable recall.
     
  6. JoshSkewes123

    JoshSkewes123 PetForums Newbie

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    I don't want a guardian or a dog for protection as such, I just want the dog to be clever, and playful. Would you recommend staying away from this dog? Just curious to see how it would pan out because, they seemed really nice
     
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    I wouldn't say stay away from them, I just mean if you want a dog with guardian instincts you won't get it from this mix. If the parents have lovely temperaments and are healthy then I wouldn't advise you against it. I would look up some health problems in akita's/samoyeds though and see if the parents have been tested/whether these problems have come up in their lineage. I'm no expert on either breeds specific health problems or lack of but being big dogs I would be surprised if there weren't a few things they should be tested for. Hope that helps. :)

    Edit: As for clever I've never found Akita's to be particularly intelligent or trainable, and huskys while intelligent can be very hard to train also.
     
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    JoshSkewes123 PetForums Newbie

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    Just because of all the bad press I've seen on the internet. And they've had no problems with hip dysplasia, they parents hip score was 10. I don't know the answer to the second question, sorry, but I'm visting again very soon. It seems like this is a breed I should avoid
     
  9. Phoolf

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    I think the bad press is mainly due to people buying dogs due to looks and not knowing enough about the breed requirements regarding mental stimulation etc., with any dog if you don't keep it happy it can be very problematic especially if they're a large dog. Are there any other kind of things you're looking in for a dog, perhaps we can suggest breeds for you? :)
     
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    JoshSkewes123 PetForums Newbie

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    Well my family has alot of dog's! I've always loved the German Shepherd, or something similar to that breed. But the hip problems really made me wary of taking a risk on one
     
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    Is there any particular reason you're after a husky x? There are loads in rescue, I'd imagine there are a few youngsters desperate for a good home.

    I wouldn't line someone's pockets I'm afraid, but that's just me, they may seem like lovely people but there are so many people churning out pups without really understanding or knowing what they're doing, and every time they successfully sell all the litter, they're simply encouraged to repeat the exercise. My advice would be to walk away and support someone who health tests and has considered all aspects of the mating, or contact a breed rescue and take it from there :eek:
     
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    Very true, I've been put off them for the same reason. Have you looked up Belgian Shepherd's at all? They seem to be a lot healthier and I'm seeing a lot more around these days, probably due to like you say the health issues these days with a lot of GSD's. You could always look into rescue too? I know they don't have the same guarantee health wise if you don't have health scores etc. but it might be worth a punt, you could even find a lovely crossbreed in foster that would suit you perfectly. If that appeals you could look at Dogs for Adoption & Rescue - DogsBlog.com and do an advanced search for age, sex, location, breed etc. and it collates all the rescues in the UK so you don't have to trawl round the internet for ages. :)
     
  13. JoshSkewes123

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    Thank you everyone for your replies! Think I'm going look into it more and not rush anything! :)
     
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    If you find a good breeder who does all the health tests it will minimise the likelihood of these problems, you might have to go on a waiting list but it would be worth the wait:)
     
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    hi there just thought that i add alittle something no offense and i mean no disrepect here but all dog breeds big ones mediums one small ones crosses etc all have some kind of potential health issues for instance yorkies can suffur with hip dyspleyia bad joints bad skin alliegies and bad eyes boxers can suffer from bad cancers lab can get twisted stomachs that not to say that ur dog will but ALL dogs have health risk just like humans can. now having said that i would ask myself more simplar questions like: do i have room for a dog in my home, life and heart do i have a what kind of dog would suit my lifestyle reseach lots of reseach especially if you have children i would really consider rescuing there are so many dogs needed loving homes however sometime this is not a option it worth really looking into if a puppy is the way to go pls pls reseach and get health its benfits both yourself and ur puppy this is only my opinion again no offence meant just some advice good luck in ur search hope u find ur perfect addition :eek:
     
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    Is this a samoyed x husky x akita? Or a samoyd x akita? Theres no such thing as a samoyd husky.

    Samoyds and huskies are 2 very different breeds. Samoyds can be very barky and require a LOT of grooming, huskies dont bark but howl and just need occasional brushing until their coat is blowing.
     
  17. JoshSkewes123

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    It's a samoyed x husky x akita. Just don't like the idea of the Akita side being dominant, that's my main concern
     
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    It's good that you're thinking about these things.

    My Zach is an Akita/Lab cross. Before I got him I researched Akita's well and thought that the lab cross would work well. Akita's are dominant, obstinate, head strong and yes aloof, but also very loving, loyal and yes protective of anything they feel is theirs - they don't back down from any challenge. I thought the willingness, laziness and softness of a lab would counter this well.

    My point is that I now have my gorgeous boy, who is an akita in a lab-like body - with a cross you don't know what you are getting until you've got it!! This is part of the fun and attraction but also can be a problem!
    Zach is my fourth dog, I'd say I was fairly well experienced when I got him, but boy, has he tested me!!

    Akita's are not easy, they're a labour of love. TBH I don't think any spitz breed is easy. I'd think very hard about what you want from a dog first and be aware that you could get the best or the worse of breeds traits and anything in between.


    p.s. i don't agree that akita's aren't intelligent - they are very much so - you can tell from their look of distain!!! :D
     
  19. simplysardonic

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    If you are concerned about that, then walk away, as you have no guarantee which breed traits will be most prominent
     
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    If you don't want a dog that might have dominant traits, I wouldn't get a spitz breed!
     
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