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Confession Time!

Discussion in 'Cat Health and Nutrition' started by billyboysmammy, Jul 25, 2010.


  1. billyboysmammy

    billyboysmammy PetForums VIP

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    Well

    Most of you who will know me know i hold fairly strong views on feline nutrition. Its something ive researched a great deal and something i take seriously for the sake of my cats.

    You will know i use a mainly raw diet for my cats, with wet commercial food as an extra a couple of times a week. The commercial diet is of good quality, however i regualrly swap brands around as this allows variety and flexibility in emergencies or when i am leaving them in the care of neighbours or cat sitters.

    Now let me tell you about Luna!

    Luna is a beautiful blue & white persian. She is a rescue, however she came from a very lovely breeder who i am now close friends with (once we tracked her down lol).

    Luna has a number of medical conditions. The primary one being a bleeding disorder which distorts her platelets. This means she bleeds very very easily, and the bleeding doesnt stop. At this time, she has seen various specialists and there is no exact name for her condition, but its believed to be from a unique sporadic genetic mutation (e.g. mutated in that one egg or sperm rather than carried from parent to offspring).

    Luna has also suffered from long bouts of acute Diarrhoea/bowel incontinence.
    She would be fine for a few days and then affected again. She would leave puddles of watery diarrhoea all over the house. She was tested repeatedly for months for corona, chlamydia, herpes, calici, protozoan, and bacterial infections. All came back negative. Still... the vets decided to try treating her which made no difference to her symptoms. Food allergys were suspected, so exclusion diets were prescribed and adhered to, we tried everything from mustang meat, raw exclusion diets, all the way through to hills and royal canin. Household allergys were suspected, so everything was excluded. All cleaning products, sprays, perfumes, chemicals of any sort. She was kept out of bedrooms and kitchens and her bedding was washed in only soapnuts and white vinnegar. Drug therapy was tried, from slight dehydration with water tablets, along with the more average cat diarrhoea remedies. She had allergy tests, swabs and tissue samples sent to spain and america, saw specialists and everyone just scratched their heads.

    Still she had diarrhoea.

    I was by this time working with a holistic vet along with my standard vet. The holistic vet suggested supplementing her diet with slippery elm. While i got a tiny improvement it wasnt anything significant. We then went onto dietry fibre, and so psyllium was added. Again no significant improvement other than we had more poo now to clear up!

    Whilst she was on the mustang meat (her last exclusion trial) he suggested we put her on peppermint oil. This has calmative effects on the overactive bowel. Again a small improvement but nothing dramatic.

    It was then at a duel vet meeting about her the holistic vet suggested one last thing. It was something i had also been discussing with a couple of knowledgable members on here. Could the problem actually be the food? whats the common denominator in her diet? MEAT. Sure i had tried different meats but they were still animal proteins, still meat!

    So... i decided to give it one last shot. A vegetarian cat diet!

    Yes you heard me! Not only am i going against my own principles I am going against the very nature and biology of cats!

    Luna has been on a dry vegan cat food, with a synthetic taurine supplement, slippery elm and peppermint oil now for some time. Things arent quite perfect but they are 1000% better than they were. She visits her tray around 3 times a day. She has formed (but not hard or really solid) poos, and she is happy! Its not a full cure but its enough!

    Yes there are some significant risks with feeding a vegan diet, some more risks with feeding a cat with bleeding problems a dry diet, more considerations for teeth, weight, kidneys etc. However without it she wouldnt be here. We had reached the stage where quantity of life was outweighing quality, and decisions had to be made. The risks of her current diet outweigh the consequenses of leaving her poorly.


    So there is my confession!

    Me... the confirmed raw spokeswoman, who will tell you all about how cats MUST have meat, has a cat on a dry (shudders), vegetarian (shudders again), diet supplemented with synthetic (eek!) formulas!

    I'm not advocating this diet for anyone. You wont catch me advising for it. It goes against every possible rule about feline nutrition. This is most definatly a DONT TRY THIS AT HOME moment!

    I am still militant about my views on cats NEEDING meat. Luna really does still need meat, but her body rejects it. Alternatives had to be found and thats not without its own significant disadvantages and risks.

    Well done to anyone who read this through!
     
  2. simplysardonic

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    If it works for you & Luna then keep going with it, after all you've obviously done your best by her even if its against the norm:)
     
  3. Waterlily

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    aw yeah if its what she needs then so be it xx :)
     
  4. Lyceum

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    I applaud you for going against your own principals and putting your pets first. I've seen so many people plough on believing they are right and ignoring what their pets own body is telling them.

    People have allergies to just about everything, the sun, day light, water, you name it, there's someone allergic to it. And I don't see why the animal world would be different.
     
  5. GreyHare

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    You are doing the best for your cat and that is what is important, but wow a vegetarian cat, I guess it's good that the food exists. I hope Luna continues to flourish on it and would love to see a picture of her.
     
  6. peecee

    peecee PetForums Senior

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    Well done to your holistic vet and to you for having the courage to do what best for your cat.
     
  7. tc.catz

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    You always get one that goes against the grain of what should be. If she slips back again try finely chopped comfrey leaves in her food. Has to be fresh leaves & only very young new leaves at top of the plant. Dried comfrey is significantly stronger & hard to guess by how much to use.

    Glad youve found something to suit. Is it a bought food or one you make up?
     
  8. billyboysmammy

    billyboysmammy PetForums VIP

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    It just makes you kitty even more special, and you for seeing it through until you find the right solution.

    I bet she was sent to test you :D
     
  10. KathyM

    KathyM PetForums Senior

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    I am like you in that I would never recommend a vegan diet for a cat, I have strong feelings about vegans putting their beliefs on their pets, and I can see why you would've been worried. However, I think it is amazing that it's working for her and must be such a relief to you. It's even more fantastic that you're willing to share it on here so people like me can see a different side to things. It's very easy to see things as black and white and sometimes it's best to try and see in shades of grey - I could use a bit of retraining on that so applaud your post! I hope Luna continues to improve! xx
     
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