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Concerned about Emma's tum

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by DaisyBluebell, Jul 11, 2019.


  1. DaisyBluebell

    DaisyBluebell Earth, the insane asylum of the Universe

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    I've been concerned about Emma's tum for a week now. She has James Wellbeloved kibble (Turkey, Lamb or Fish & rice) & very little in the way of treats, which are usually dry biscuit type treats, because it doesn't take much out of the usual to give her the runs, but she has developed very smelly wind lately :eek:. Not often & usually later in the evening when relaxed, but I am concerned. She is 100% her usual mad lurcher self otherwise.
    Any thoughts would be appreciated I would hate to think she is uncomfortable or I am missing something that could be remedied.
     
  2. Mum2Heidi

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    Sorry to hear Emma’s tum isn’t 100% happy.
    Perhaps if it tends to be sensitive a supplement boost (Yudigest , Bionic Biotics etc.) would help.
    Charcoal biscuits are very good to settle symptoms of a gurgly/smelly tum by mopping up any nasties.
    If her food suits and has done for a while I wouldn’t want to risk further upset of changing food unless I had to.
     
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  3. lullabydream

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    If a dog has bad wind I tend to think that a food, or a certain treat isn't suiting her..

    Maisie had terrible wind when I got her. The car journey home wasn't good, and her poo wasn't either. 24 hours later no wind and poo fine.

    Some times the odd chew or treat doesn't agree with mine
     
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  4. McKenzie

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    Does she eat quickly?

    Does she have 3 different flavours of the JWB (did I read that right)?
     
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    I'm having similar issues with Bobby, 3-4 stools a day,some firm, some sloppy.As you may remember from the Welly saga he had diarrhoea last week, his second bout inthe 8 weeks we've had him, and that resolved mostly with ProKolin.
    He's now having Tree BarkPowder and Protexin sachets daily. At least we don't have the flatulence !
    I hope you can sort Emma out, agree with the Charcoal biscuits or you can get activated charcoal to put on her food.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hatchwells...OQI7OA/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=charcoal+for+dogs&
     
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    DaisyBluebell Earth, the insane asylum of the Universe

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    No she eats nicely from a Puzzle bowl. I alternate her 3 varieties to give her a bt if a change, alway have done. I have Pro-Kolin powder that I could try sprinkling on her food & did wonder about the charcoal biscuits too. Might try charcoal first are they animal ones or the human ones?
    I did read too much intake of air could cause it & she does do a lot of running about n panting when she gets too hot (we have to curb her zoomies n ball chasing regularly)
    It's like you describe Bobby with poo as well SusieRainbow since the wind started.
    Yesterday she had nothing other than her Turkey kibble & a couple of Pooch & Mutt tiny treats on her walk for her recall reminders. It got to about 9.30pm & she sleeping upside down beside me on the sofa before she had a couple of windy episodes.
    I am going to monitor her over the next few days to see if there is a definite set of circumstances & report back. Meanwhile thank you for ideas.
     
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    Hope Emma improves soon x
     
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  8. McKenzie

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    I don’t know how you rotate the foods but is it likely that it’s happening on one of the particular flavours?

    The thing is she’s just the right age for when things like food intolerances show up. If her tummy is in a bit of a funky state the wind might not be directly related to what she ate that particular day, if that makes sense.

    I’d probably try to avoid treats and get some pre/pro biotics into her as other people have said and see if you can attribute it to a food. Be aware that it can take at least 5 weeks for something to fully clear from their system.
     
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    DaisyBluebell Earth, the insane asylum of the Universe

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    I thouight that this morning McKenzie so I am going to stick with the Turkey & Rice for the next few weeks to see how that goes

    I am going to order some of those SusieRainbow & see if that makes a difference to here, they sound very good.

    Thank you both.
     
  11. lullabydream

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    I know this is slightly off topic, but might help with you too @DaisyBluebell or something worth considering.

    @SusieRainbow have you considered using panacur wormer and using the 3 day protocol. Was it Bobbie who had been sold on to somewhere scrupulous or Reena. Am thinking if he had, or even not it might be worth treating for giardia...

    I was up and down to the vets with Tess and her colitis and nothing helped even antibiotics. She was in pain bless her when it was really bad. Change of food didn't help, but I did stop feeding lamb completely just in case if that had been a trigger. Was just about to have a referral to a specialist and she was due her wormer so I spoke to the vet; who is one of the long standing vets too. My vets have various from time to time but some long standing ones I really trust. She said it's worth a shot. Even though giardia can be treated with antibiotics and they had no effect. So I used panacur for 3 days, and she suggested treating the same 2 weeks later. I never looked back and stuck to panacur from then on.

    It might not make a difference but could be worth a try.
     
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    That's a good point , but he's been away from the puppy farm since September, could it still be an issue ? Also woud he not have more persistent diarrhoea as opposed to episodes every few weeks ?
    I'll certainly raise it with the vet when we take Reena next week.
     
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    Tess colitis was intermittent...hence why she got diagnosed. It was the intermittent bit that got her classed as colitis bit. So you think the 10 day course of antibiotics did nothing...so you do a stool sample over 3 days ( this was just an example) but she was probably back to normal...then was fine...then wake up to her struggling with stomach cramps. As we started to let her sleep in our bedroom.

    I do think that she probably had it when we got her ..she was never greedy dog anyway so all recall training was done with toys and us because food didn't interest her. Remainded me of @McKenzie Elliot.

    She started with colitis at about 8 months old.

    Like I said, the vet I said was it's worth a shot...

    Yes I did change food prior, but no real difference.
    With giardia your working with natural life cycles, and would say all dogs have some but its kept in check to minimal levels. So you just get up and down with it.

    Stool samples never found anything, but of course even over 3 days I could miss some!

    Could be pure coincidence and Tess with maturity and better immune system etc helped. I tried pre/probiotics, slippery elm and still got bad stomach. Maybe it all eventually came together at about 10 months but I don't know!
     
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    Interesting @lullabydream . What were the symptoms of the colitis.

    @SusieRainbow Candy starts the morning with firm poos and they gradually get sloppy through the day. Not sure what causes it. She also has bouts of the runs for a day or two. It doesnt seem to bother her so I have tended to ignore it. Toffee has food intolerances so when she has bout I know there is a good reason.
     
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    I guess I need to stop obsessing really,but as I said before Tango's health issues were quite stressful and it's a bit of deja-vu.
    Excercise certainly seems to stimulate Bobby's gut, a walk guarantees a poo !
     
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    @Blitz colitis symptoms for Tess were diarrhea with and without mucus..plus stomach pain, classic arched back, plus loud stomach noises. Diarrhea the main issue, she could have all the other symptoms at the same time or one of the other symptoms, or a couple.

    She went to zilch symptoms and able to have a variety of chews...I was wondering if giardia was being resistant to the antibiotic.
     
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  17. Mum2Heidi

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    I was much the same with Heidi until her tummy issues began.
    Ness from Arden Grange suggested at the outset I find Heidi’s optimal food and stick to it. Which I did until the goal posts moved (and they have often). Looking back, as her tummy improved her optimal food changed with it.
    At her best she will have 2 solid poohs. One morning, one evening and that is what I strive for these days for her optimal health.
    Not sure if it’s worthwhile. Without her issues I wouldn’t have bothered, but now I see it from a different view point (probably paranoia :D)
     
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