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Yoohoo!

I'm normally on the rabbit/ cat forums but love popping over to Dog Chat and reading about everyone's antics :D

Now, I'm in no position to get a dog at the moment- I still live with my Mum, who's quite scared of them, and I wouldn't be able to afford the upkeep of one at present. However, I would love to become a dog owner at some point in the future, when I have a nice house and hopefully, a decent graduate job.

There are so many breeds that I love, and I would ideally like a rescue dog, but the one that always stands out to me is the BC. I love their elegance and beauty :001_wub:

I was just wondering, though, what are their temperaments like? I'm aware that they're very high energy and intelligent dogs, so I'd love to do agility or something with them to keep them stimulated. Other than that, I'm not too sure- do they have a good life expectancy, which health problems are they prone to, and are they good for first time owners?

Oh, and I wouldn't object to collie pics, either ;)
 
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Hello Jordan,
My nan used to own one. He was as mad as a box of frogs lol, he could run around for hours on end in the woods and still be jumping about.
They can often be allergic to fleas and as far as I am aware they can be prone to hip dysplasia (sp?), deafness and epilepsy.
On average they tend to live about 12-15 years old, but of course depends on genetics, diet etc.
I would personally say they are good for a first time dog owner, but only if your willing to deal with a intelligent (sounds good but my nans BC managed to learn how to open doors and even gates!) energetic dog, they have strong herding instincts :)
Good to see your doing research first!
 

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Well here's one you already know...



Meg has a lovely temp, tho a bit crazy at times!

Not sure *I* would normally recommend them as a 'first time dog' but it really does depend on the person too. You'd cope well Jordan. x

There are short and long coat [so a choice if you like? of grooming times].

And... I love BC elegance too.

Around 12-15 years life span, usually not fussy eaters, but can go& go& go& go for ever, even on just a biscuit!!!
 

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BCs are fab dogs (I was brought up with working BCs), health tests off the top of my head include CEA & hip scoring but I know there are more than that. They are long lived- our youngest 'oldie' was 13 when he passed away (we lost one boy to gastric torsion when he was just 3) & the girls were 15 & 16.

They definitely aren't a dog for the couch potato & need a fair bit of walking as well as a lot of things to keep their brain active, but you won't find a more loyal companion (apart from a German Shepherd, but I'm slightly biased:D).
 

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Well here's one you already know...



Meg has a lovely temp, tho a bit crazy at times!

Not sure *I* would normally recommend them as a 'first time dog' but it really does depend on the person too. You'd cope well Jordan. x

There are short and long coat [so a choice if you like? of grooming times].

And... I love BC elegance too.

Around 12-15 years life span, usually not fussy eaters, but can go& go& go& go for ever, even on just a biscuit!!!
Meg!! :001_wub:

Thank you for the info.- I am aware that they're pretty hard work in terms of their energy levels and with them being so intelligent (I also know somebody whose Collie likes to try and herd people up in the park :lol:), so I'd have to have a good think about that aspect...

I have a particular soft spot for long coats :001_wub: How much grooming would they require? I can't see it being too much, as the fur's quite silky :confused5:

Lovely to see your beauty :thumbup:

BCs are fab dogs (I was brought up with working BCs), health tests off the top of my head include CEA & hip scoring but I know there are more than that. They are long lived- our youngest 'oldie' was 13 when he passed away (we lost one boy to gastric torsion when he was just 3) & the girls were 15 & 16.

They definitely aren't a dog for the couch potato & need a fair bit of walking as well as a lot of things to keep their brain active, but you won't find a more loyal companion (apart from a German Shepherd, but I'm slightly biased:D).
Funnily enough, my second choice would be a German Shepherd, they are gorgeous!!! :001_wub: Are they less energetic than BCs?
 

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I have a border collie and she is my first dog, she has the best temperament!

Because they are so energetic and intelligent they need a lot of simulation not just physical but mental stimulation too. Mental stimulation is something a lot of first time owners don't even think of i know i didn't but it is a must. Training is great for that along with interactive toys like kongs and treat dispensers. With all these requirements met you will have a lovely Calm BC.

They have a great life expectancy and generally quite a healthy breed of dog although can be prone to hip dysplasia and eye problems, so if you are getting a pup make sure both parents are health tested :thumbup:

They also come in a range of colours and coat types :thumbup:


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Hey Jordan

I love BC's and we're looking to get one in the next couple of years. My BF introduced us to the world of agility and flyball with her gorgeous little man:



Scrummy dogs- and great with cats too :D
 

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Cali's beautiful!! :001_wub: It's nice to hear from a first time owner, too, it sounds like as long as you provide plenty of stimulation they're very good companions (I can see them being destructive/ developing behavioural issues if these needs aren't catered for, but that's the same for any animal, in my opinion!)

And you mention coat colours, that was something I wanted to include in my first post but thought I'd sound completely unaware of everything :eek: :lol:

Which colours are common? I have to say I do adore blue merles :001_wub:
 

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Hey Jordan

I love BC's and we're looking to get one in the next couple of years. My BF introduced us to the world of agility and flyball with her gorgeous little man:



Scrummy dogs- and great with cats too :D
What a handsome chap!! :001_wub: I love the sound of both agility and flyball, and it's something I'd definitely look into. It might wear them out (for an hour at least! ;) ). I have heard that they're good with other animals, too, and I can see Spooks getting on better with a dog than another cat- he doesn't seem to know he's a cat :lol:

I've seen a few that are good with bunnies, too, including Gertrude's Meg and her angel, Lotti :001_wub:

Thank you for the info :thumbup:
 

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Funnily enough, my second choice would be a German Shepherd, they are gorgeous!!! :001_wub: Are they less energetic than BCs?
Not really:eek: although Trix is now 9 & has slowed down she can still get quite a lot of speed up:D


& this year she learned to swim instead of just paddle:D

 

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Aww, Trix :001_wub: Isn't she stunning?! :001_wub: I love the ones of her swimming! :D Do German Shepherds need a lot of grooming? How does their temperament compare to a Collie?
 

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PS- I do apologise for the amount of silly questions! Can't you tell I've never owned a dog? :eek:
 

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Coat colours and lentgh varys greatly there are Black and White, Blue merle, Red , Tri


Black and white



Blue merle



Red



Tri Colour

The coat varies too



smooth



long

Just got the pics of the internet and that is just a basic range of colours and markings
hope this helps
 

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Coat colours and lentgh varys greatly there are Black and White, Blue merle, Red , Tri


Black and white



Blue merle



Red



Tri Colour

The coat varies too



smooth



long

Just got the pics of the internet and that is just a basic range of colours and markings
hope this helps
Oh, look at them all! :001_wub: I might have one of each colour :p :lol: The Blue Merles are stunning beyond words, I think they'd be my first choice. I'm very much of the impression that animals choose you, though, so will have to see which one I get chosen by when the time comes :D
 

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Just look at all the different ear shapes too :eek:

BC Museum: Ears

Jordan, take a look at this site... very good for coat, eyes, ears, colour, everything!

scroll to the very bottom to find all the other options

BC Museum: Coat Type
I've just been lost on that site with this expression on my face ------> :w00t:

They are just the most beautiful breed, I LOVE the split face ones, and some have Gaga ears! :D

*Add to Favourites? Check!!*
 

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Something to consider on top of being able to provide physical exercise and mental stimulation is how sensitive a typical BC is. Especially if you get one with any recent working lines in it's pedigree. Historically they aren't dogs that would have had to be particularly sociable with strange people and dogs and their hearing is incredibly sensitive. So you really have to push the boat out with careful (not overfacing) socialisation and habituation as a pup and young dog!

They aren't a breed that will absorb your mistakes easily if that makes sense? Often it just takes one bad experience and it's etched into their brains for life. Which leads to reactivity to certain people or dogs etc. A really high-drive dog could be very difficult for a first time owner to manage, not impossible and not un-rewarding - but difficult. :)
 
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