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Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by Sinita, Jun 11, 2019.


  1. Sinita

    Sinita PetForums Junior

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    Hi, I'm a new Chihuahua mom of 2 lovely boys. Both 9 weeks old.
    I've had a jack russell/staff before and practically raised him from birth, so I know abit about dogs. But that was over 10yrs ago now.
    The boys, Duke and Diesel, sleep quite abit and are much calmer dogs. My issue is about taking them out for walks. Im quite anxious to do this yet, as they are so small. The smaller brother is just 9 kg and loves to just be held alot.
    Does anyone have any experience with this breed or know abit about this?
     
  2. mrs phas

    mrs phas my home, my sofa, my rules

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    you shouldnt take them out ON THE GROUND before 2weeks after their second injection, although out and about in your garden is obviously ok
    but
    You should be taking them out IN YOUR ARMS now, so they can get used to the noise bustle and hustle of the world in general, and get used to people and other dogs around them, safely
     
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    Please look in to littermate syndrome as well.
     
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    Sarah H Grand Empress of the Universe

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    Is there a reason you got 2? It's not usually recommended to get siblings as they tend to bond more to each other and not to their owners. It's also 4 x the work not half, as you need to teach them to do things both separately AND together. Look up littermate syndrome too.
    At this point you need to be ditching any puppy pads and taking them out regularly to the garden to toilet. By using pads you just encourage them to toilet inside. You probably need to do this separately as otherwise they will not focus on toileting but rather playing, so stay out for 5-10 mins with one pup, then bring them in and try with the other pup. Also take them out after sleeping, drinking, playing etc, and when you see any sniffing or spinning.
    Take pups out together and separately to the coffee shop, park, supermarket car park, pet shop etc so they get some socialisation before you can walk them.
     
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  5. Sinita

    Sinita PetForums Junior

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    I will start to take them out ,in my arms. Good point, about letting them get used to outside noises.
    I will look into littermate syndrome, as I've never heard of this...
    I got my 13yr old son one, then my daughter 14,was pleading with dad to get her one. So same day got the brother. I've had them for 2 days, one brother is quite laid back, but the other is very clingy.
    They are quite good using the puppy pads, with a only few accidents. This rainy weather has kept them from going out in the garden but I was thinking about putting the puppy pads in garden first.
    They have had first injections and second will be 21st of this month, so I won't "walk" them until 2 weeks after.
     
  6. mrs phas

    mrs phas my home, my sofa, my rules

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    missed this bit

    dont use puppy pads, youre just setting them up to fail
    chis are well known for being little buggers to reliable toilet train as it is, by using pads your training them that its ok to toilet inside, then you have to retrain to toilet outside, but then theyre highly likely to still think any paper on the floor is for toiletting anyway
    get them outside from the get go
    if it raining, so what? my 7kg crestie gets walked in the rain, snow , whatever and kicked out the garden last thing at night, whatever the weather
    they dont shrink and are not 'delicate', outside toiletting ALL the time is needed
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    they are dogs, not toys to be carried everywhere ( after the second jab situation) treat them as such or
    have a whole barrel full of problems.
    My crestie had no concept of being a dog, precisly because of this and was a nightmare, no outside toiletting, carried everywhere, fed by hand, never walked bin load of outfits, which, apart from coats, went where they deserved to:rolleyes:
    oh my goodness did he have a shock landing here :D

    its much easier to put things into place from the begining, than have to retrain them when older and theyre little divas ( im not saying never pamper, cuddle, or, carry them, falcor comes to bed with me, the first dog in 30+ years of owning my own thats ever been allowed)

    Having had my own in the past, and, probably going back to the breed, ive always said that.......
    chis have no concept of their size and if they were as big as rotties, theyd be classed under the DDA

    btw, did you mean 9kg or is it a typo and you actually meant 9lb
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    Speak to your vet about when you can take them on a walk...my vet advises a week after their second injection. That's with the lepto2 vaccine and not Lepto4 which might have a different protocol. Not hugely familiar at all with Lepto4 just that there is differing time spans on administering it...so do ask the vet.
     
  8. Sinita

    Sinita PetForums Junior

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    Sorry , he's 900grams.
    I've looked up littermate, which isn't very positive. Good to have the knowledge of this though.
    They have a bond but are happy to sleep separately, be in different rooms in the house etc.
    Yes I will be speaking to vet.
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    I did presume you meant 900g, so about the same size as my Harley when I bought her home 3 weeks ago.. chi cross Yorkie but looks very chi like.

    You can make it work but chi's are very energetic puppies, nosey, inquisitive so can be very hard work which people seem to forget. Just typical overbearing puppies but tiny so training needs are a must.

    One word of advice, if you want a well rounded chi then don't pick them up so often. They really need to explore their world with their feet and use of treats, toys etc to 'entice' them to you.
     
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  10. Sinita

    Sinita PetForums Junior

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    Good advice!
    My 14yr old daughter is the culprit for this.
    They are just too cute and at the minute,really not hard work at all.
    Things will probably change though
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    Honestly all puppies want to be with their family. Chihuahuas are no exception. So it's not as if you won't get cuddles and time with them. However if you keep picking a small puppy up, as it's so easy to do. If they are busy doing their own thing, which they need time to do. A pair of hands keeps picking them up, puppies seem to learn above all avoidance is the key as these hands keep spoiling what I have is fun. So you get the running away, then you get snapping as no one is listening to them, and the cycle begins.
    Yes they will be stubborn or rather more interested in other things, when you want them in the house from the garden. So use your kibble,to encourage them in. Come to me, treat, inside treat and you are also making preparations for recall.

    Also using their name. With more than one dog in a household it's essential that name of each puppy really means something to them. You will be surprised how many puppies and even dogs really don't have that knowledge per se of name. So you need to say the name, if they acknowledge it by say an ear movement or come full pelt to you, then that's gets rewarded.
     
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  12. Sinita

    Sinita PetForums Junior

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    Exactly right lullabydream!
    We are having problems with names right now and they don't mean anything to them yet. One brother is so calm and laid-back but the smaller one, is so demanding and forces you to pay attention to him and cry's for cuddles. We are wrapped around his little finger. Even hubby his completely wrapped! It's the best £2000 we have ever spent, cos what we all get back is tenfold. Just an amazing experience and I don't know what we did before them.
    Completely Beautiful!!
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    I wouldn't take this as his personality to be honest. Both will need to come out their shells. It might seem he's taking everything in his stride but it might just be he's too overwhelmed with leaving mum and siblings.
     
  14. Sinita

    Sinita PetForums Junior

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    I think because they have each other, the transition from birth home to our home has been much less stressful for them.
    I agree they still need to come out of their shells more but all is well.
    I haven't put them in the garden though, as this rain is unrelenting and been going strong for 3 days straight.
     
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    Wow! 2K for two puppies, toy breed, let go too early, and the breeder didn't even warn you about littermate syndrome?
    I'm guessing they're not health tested either?

    I'm really glad you're happy with your puppies. But it makes me angry that people like that take advantage of people like you who seem like a kind person who just wants to be a loving home for two cute puppies. These puppies landed on their feet, and I worry what might have happened to the rest of the litter.
    I'm really sorry you were taken advantage of this way :(
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    Doesn't matter if you have two siblings. The puppies have still gone through a dramatic change. That they have left everything they are familiar with behind.
     
  17. Sinita

    Sinita PetForums Junior

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    The breeder was glad that the brothers are together. They have been health checked, microchipped, and first vaccinations.
    Im just glad I've got them.
    They have gone through a dramatic change, as have every puppy who gets a new home. They are happy, healthy, vibrant pups who just want love, food, attention and a clean safe home.
     

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    Health checks are not the same as health tests.
    Chihuahuas are prone to health issues, many of which can be prevented with responsible breeding practices and by not breeding from affected individuals. Health tests are performed to see which individuals are affected so the breeder can make more informed choices about which dogs to breed.

    There is no reason other than greed to charge such an exorbitant price for a puppy, let alone two.
    No responsible breeder would be happy for two puppies to go to the same home without extensive conversations about littermate syndrome and full vetting of the home in question to make very sure there won't be any issues in that regard.

    Again, I'm very glad your puppies are doing well and seem to have landed on their feet with you, but the breeder is very much at fault in my opinion and not practicing ethical or responsible breeding.
     
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  19. Sinita

    Sinita PetForums Junior

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    Puppies are here now..but chihuahuas should really go to their homes at 12 weeks due to slower development till this stage;both physical and mental. It's outlined by the chihuahua club of great Britain. They need mum for the important socialisation part of this area too.

    Sadly in the breed, no one hardly health tests I think 3 was the last count and that's between both smooth coat and long coat. Which is disgusting, and lines can be terrible too...although it's very much all toy breeds that are at fault over lack of health testing. Such a tragedy as it's all only an advisory and hey LP can be fixed can't it...rather have good joints from the start but hey it's fine.

    Good luck with the pups and please ask as many questions as possible. We all can do our best to help.
     
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