[TonyG]

@TonyG You may well be right . It's scary. I was in primary school when president Kennedy was shot That was very suspicious.

Yes that was suspicious too, Kennedy upset a lot of people. Not necessarily because he did anything wrong but he upset a lot of vested interests.
Also convenient his assassin was killed not long after. Handy he wasn’t around to answer questions…

In this case, they’re now saying the suspect is refusing to cooperate. Perhaps he’s realised he’s been sold down the pipe.
Why would he meekly confess, allow himself to be turned in then become difficult?

 

[Calvine]

Not saying I believe it 100% and am open to more compelling evidence, but Trump now controls much if not all law enforcement, he’s replaced many in the FBI with his ‘yes men’. Not to mention his various judiciary appointments.
He or his administration could I think quite easily present whatever ‘evidence’ they like and call it the truth. I really don’t think the federal authorities are impartial any more, they do what they’re told (or else).
The suspect could easily have been profiled as a relative non entity with no one to really fight his corner, tell him to come quietly and ‘confess’ or the rest of his family dies in a ‘car wreck’, add a few flimsy ‘motives’ and trumps your uncle.
If the whole system was that corrupt they could do what they like, especially with a Joe Nobody.

I know that all sounds far fetched and I may well be wrong, but Kirk was beginning to bite back at Trump and a martyr is very useful when he’s lost his momentum in recent weeks and months.
As I said, read up on the suspects profile and his supposed motives, it all seems very thin to me.
Usually, here or there, it doesn’t take much police effort to find crazy and disturbing stuff in the background of radicalised nutjobs, but I’m seeing nothing much here with this one.
The only reason people don’t find out about the crazy stuff sooner is no one is looking for it. Why would they?

Only a gut feeling, I could be wrong but it all seems off to me.

What I did think odd, back whenever, was Trump being shot. Not the fact that there was an attempt. But I mean, how on earth did it graze his ear - it was just unbelievable that he could have been that close to being killed. People said he had planned it, but he would never say to someone "Just aim for my right ear". Did they ever catch the person who shot The Donald? Can't remember.
Crikey. I really don't think he could have been behind this, but yes, I wondered what he thought about Kirk wanting the Epstein info made public. Prince Andrew features in them too (though I don't imagine he shot him!).

 

[kimthecat]

For that, insults do to of been thrown. Yet again. And not by myself.
So sure. I am the one being contentious.

Insults at whom? BTW you made pointed comments at me.

 

[TonyG]

What I did think odd, back whenever, was Trump being shot. Not the dact that there was an attempt. But I mean, how on earth did it graze his ear - it was just unbelievable that he could have been that close to being killed. People said he had planned it, but he would never say to someone "Just aim for my right ear". Did they ever catch the person who shot The Donald? Can't remember.
Crikey. I really don't think he could have been behind this, but yes, I wondered what he thought about Kirk wanting the Epstein info made public. Prince Andrew features in them too (though I don't imagine he shot him!).

Was Trump even shot? Watch the security reactions in that video, some almost seemed to expect it, others looked like bad play acting. Either that or I wouldn’t trust them to guard an allotment from rabbits.
Again, it gave him a handy amount of attention and sympathy and boosted his election chances.

He will imo literally do, or say, anything to further his own cause, so I don’t really trust anything that’s supposedly the official version of events where him and his administration are concerned.

 

[kimthecat]

I think he was . I feel for the family of the man that died.

 

[Calvine]

Was Trump even shot? Watch the security reactions in that video, some almost seemed to expect it, others looked like bad play acting. Either that or I wouldn’t trust them to guard an allotment from rabbits.
Again, it gave him a handy amount of attention and sympathy and boosted his election chances.

He will imo literally do, or say, anything to further his own cause, so I don’t really trust anything that’s supposedly the official version of events where him and his administration are concerned.

The Donald's shooting was very odd.

 

[Calvine]

Sure.
I do to tell you there is 37/432 people into the village, and you do want to know where they do come from, which would narrow it down to the exact village i live if disclosed. This does to not be a private conversation. This is a public forum.
If you do to not be one of these auditers who do to have access to the lists being compiled by the so called patriots who last year did set alight to buildings whilst people were inside, whats to say kim the cat is not? Or anyone else reading this publically open forum?

I did put my point across earlier. As succinctly as possible and to push back onto the counter points. Terring everyone with the same brush instead to treat people as individuals capable to make their own desisions does to be why this thread exists.

For that, insults do to of been thrown. Yet again. And not by myself.
So sure. I am the one being contentious.

I did not ask you any question. You need to learn to read posts carefully. You admitted to Kimthecat that you didn't read many of hers and it seems there are others you don't read properly.
Also, what is an auditer? I know an auditOR does accounts - I doubt you are talking about accountants. Auditer I never heard of. In fact, I find the whole second paragraph difficult to work out.

 

[Calvine]

I think he was . I feel for the family of the man that died.

I'd forgotten that - a guy sitting somewhere behind was killed. DT must have a charmed life to have survived that. I remember all his fan club were wearing a bandage on their right ear afterwards!

 

[kimthecat]

Do you want their names and DOB too?
No. I cannot confirm it. They do to deserve their privacy.
I know you cannot grasp that, and i do to be aware that does to make me Pol Pot into your eyes, but they do to be human beings. Try and treat them like it.

A similar discussion is on another forum .
I wrote " We have accepted and welcomed in the past from Afghanistan , Somalia and Asians kicked out from Uganda by Idi Amin . "

If you had read my posts , you'd have realised that my point was about the fact we now have 3000 refugees here and 300 more to come plus solo children who have to be fostered and the government wont help us out with cost . Our council is nearly bankrupt , facilities have closed , we have to pay for garden waste now, while many other places are not helping any. You are barely affected, you have no idea.

 

[Calvine]

A similar discussion is on another forum .
I wrote " We have accepted and welcomed in the past from Afghanistan , Somalia and Asians kicked out from Uganda by Idi Amin . "

If you had read my posts , you'd have realised that my point was about the fact we now have 3000 refugees here and 300 more to come plus solo children who have to be fostered and the government wont help us out with cost . Our council is nearly bankrupt , facilities have closed , we have to pay for garden waste now, while many other places are not helping any. You are barely affected, you have no idea.

Birmingham council IS bankrupt, or was not long ago.

 

[Jobeth]

Five days ago three migrants were crushed to death trying to cross the English Channel - two of them were children. Three are still missing. It’s not even made the national news.

I think if you look up your own area you might find a similar low number of asylum seekers.

When Melissa Hortman, a Democratic state representative, and her husband Mark were fatally shot (as well as their dog) Trump didn’t attend their funeral or lower the flag. Asked the next day if he’d called Minnesota Governor Tim Walz about the incident, the president said, “I could be nice and call him, but why waste time?”
(I messed up including the quote from a previous reply, so I’ve deleted it)

 

[Jobeth]

Birmingham council IS bankrupt, or was not long ago.

None of the reasons for that are due to migrants. Mistakes and mismanagement pushed Birmingham Council into bankruptcy - report

 

[1557876]

Insults at whom? BTW you made pointed comments at me.

No, i have made comments that do to both address what you do to of written and the wider issue with this country sliding into bed with white supremacists and people wearing a veil to pretend they do to not cuddle up to white supremacists whilst promising voters the earth and creating BS culture wars .
This, is your insult.

😅 You really haven't read my posts, have you? Either that or really don't have the comprehension to understand them.
Doh !

A similar discussion is on another forum .

I wrote " We have accepted and welcomed in the past from Afghanistan , Somalia and Asians kicked out from Uganda by Idi Amin . "



If you had read my posts , you'd have realised that my point was about the fact we now have 3000 refugees here and 300 more to come plus solo children who have to be fostered and the government wont help us out with cost . Our council is nearly bankrupt , facilities have closed , we have to pay for garden waste now, while many other places are not helping any. You are barely affected, you have no idea.

So lets address the me not to read your posts BS. Where in this thread do you to of said any of this? Said about how many people you dont want into your town?
Where other than asking me how many i do to have into my area have you to of even mentioned boat people, refugees or asylum seekers?
How exactly do you expect people to read a post that does to not exist into the thread i do to be replying into?

Or do you expect me to trawl through every post you have written elsewhere to comment onto a thread that does to have nothing to do with the topic?

Whilst we do to be onto the subject though. Answer me a few of these points.

How many people live into your town?

Council garden waste charging does to of been going on for the past 10 -15 years across the country, long before any boat migrants ever started coming here.
Given Garden waste is not a part of your council tax requirement, why does your council to of only just decided to join the rest of the country into charging for annon council tax funded service, and why do you think 15yrs of free garden waste when everyone else into the country either did to compost theirs for free or pay for its removal does to be a particular penalty to you?

Why does your council to not receive the same subsistence and accomodation costs from central government for asylum seekers like the rest of the country?

What does make you think your council going bankrupt and having to close amenities does to be in any way abnormal when it does to of been occurring across the country since 2010 when the tory government did slash funding, years before boat migrants did start turning up?

 

[1557876]

I did not ask you any question. You need to learn to read posts carefully. You admitted to Kimthecat that you didn't read many of hers and it seems there are others you don't read properly.
Also, what is an auditer? I know an auditOR does accounts - I doubt you are talking about accountants. Auditer I never heard of. In fact, I find the whole second paragraph difficult to work out.

I can read just fine thank you.
Kim the cat does want me to trawl through posts she has made onto a different thread in order to qualify to post in this completely unrelated thread.
Do you read every single thread on this forum to keep up with the opinions onto every single poster so that when they do to refer to something elsewhere you can respond immediately?

If you can point to her post in this thread that does say all the things she is claiming i have not read, then do so.

They obviously have their privacy since no-one has a clue where you live, so that was a pointless comment. No-one wants their names or DOBs, that was put there simply to make a sarcastic comment, wasn't it? Of course it would be interesting to know where they come from. It might be Ukraine or Afghanistan, and some Gazans have arrived for medical treatment. All genuine cases.

Did you decide to join the thread to be contentious as that is the impression you are giving?

Your previous post literally does have question marks into it.
I responded to your questions.
Like you, i do to have a right to post here.
If you do not like it, do not read or interact with it.

 

[kimthecat]

None of the reasons for that are due to migrants. Mistakes and mismanagement pushed Birmingham Council into bankruptcy - report

She didn't say it was.

 

[Calvine]

None of the reasons for that are due to migrants. Mistakes and mismanagement pushed Birmingham Council into bankruptcy - report

I didn't say or even imply that it was, as I do not live in Birmingham; nor do I know anyone who does, and I have not got the faintest idea how many migrants live there, nor do I give it any thought. I imagine many other councils are in the same boat. Kim said her council was on the verge of bankruptcy: I pointed out that Birmingham already is (or was) bankrupt). That's all. I don't need the link, thanks.

 

[Calvine]

She didn't say it was.

People either don't read your posts at all, or they read too much into them. You can't win!

 

[Calvine]

I can read just fine thank you.
Kim the cat does want me to trawl through posts she has made onto a different thread in order to qualify to post in this completely unrelated thread.
Do you read every single thread on this forum to keep up with the opinions onto every single poster so that when they do to refer to something elsewhere you can respond immediately?

If you can point to her post in this thread that does say all the things she is claiming i have not read, then do so.


Your previous post literally does have question marks into it.
I responded to your questions.
Like you, i do to have a right to post here.
If you do not like it, do not read or interact with it.

You like telling g people what to do, don't you!

 

[kimthecat]

Five days ago three migrants were crushed to death trying to cross the English Channel - two of them were children. Three are still missing. It’s not even made the national news.

I think if you look up your own area you might find a similar low number of asylum seekers.

When Melissa Hortman, a Democratic state representative, and her husband Mark were fatally shot (as well as their dog) Trump didn’t attend their funeral or lower the flag. Asked the next day if he’d called Minnesota Governor Tim Walz about the incident, the president said, “I could be nice and call him, but why waste time?”
(I messed up including the quote from a previous reply, so I’ve deleted it)

Is this post meant for me,?

 

[1557876]

You like telling g people what to do, don't you!

Oh get a grip ffs.

Both of you do to keep telling me i have not read a post that does not exist in this thread.

Both of you do to be making not so subtle digs at by ability to read because i do to have issue into writing that mostly all people here can to accomodate.
You do to of even turned into a grammar and spelling nazi to make some extra kind of point about it.
Either prove this non read post exists in this thread that you are both goading with, or dont.

But know if you dont, you do to only make yourself look foolish for calling someone out over a ficticious non action then getting stroppy about it when it is pointed out.