Some shocking comments from people, just disgusting. Hope the killer is caught.

 

Whilst I would never condone anyone being killed or glorify the death of anyone, George Floyd was also a father and had a family. Charlie Kirk called him a scumbag.
Pity they don't put this much effort into doing anything about the mass shootings in schools, either.

 

I really didn’t need to open social media yesterday and see a close up view of a man’s violent death. Didn’t go looking for that, just searched his name because of the news and it was playing. So much for that online safety act huh. Kept appearing in my head when I was trying to sleep last night, and I thought I was fairly desensitised.
He wasn’t really on my radar, I knew of him but couldn’t name him until recently when he was lampooned on South Park and the man himself was trying to take it in good humour.
I just can’t stop thinking of his wife and small children.

 

A 12 year old girl showed me the footage yesterday afternoon, she said everyone at school was watching it, quite shocking that it's so accessible!

 

I don't condone the murder of anyone, even though I might not like the person.

Charlie Kirk in my book was a thoroughly dislikable person with many views I totally disagreed with, but I wouldn't have wished a violent death for him.

I grieve for his wife and two young children.

 

Totally: you can't just kill someone because they have different views.
His wife and parents will never get over the horror.

 

His violent death will stoke his odious views, not quell them

 

I would say the far Left are people like Bob Geldof and Jug ears who are rich and live in big houses in posh areas who said refugees welcome about the boat people . How many did they have staying on their homes? We welcome genuine refugees but they come through several countries to get to France so why not claim asylum there?

Just out of interest , how many refugees from the boats are housed in your area ?

By your definition Churchill was far left then?

I did to not ask you the names of random people you do to think are far left.
I did ask you to name a far left organisiation or group, their aims and the person who does lead it.

I do to not think the boomtown rats, bob geldof, asking people to have humanity for eachother does to quite be what i did mean.


37.
In a village of 432 people. With no issues at all. yours?!

 

37.
In a village of 432 people. With no issues at all. yours?!

Can you confirm where your refugees are from?

 

Seems some guy has handed himself in.

 

Apparently his father recognised him from the photo the FBI had issued.

 

I read that, too; you'd be pretty mortified to see your son's photo on TV accompanied by "Wanted by the FBI", wouldn't you! And the son just went with him. Strange story. Wonder if drugs or MH issues, or both, involved. I'm sure there will be a lot of conspiracy theories.

 

Its sad of course and I mostly feel sorry for his children who unfortunately will be able to find his death so vividly shown online.

That said, I am not sure I agree with using government money to bring his body home and flying flags at half mast.

He certainly said some polarising things which in itself is not something he should be brutally killed for But he himself said that gun death is something that should be accepted in order for Americans to have the right to bear arms. I wonder if his family and those left behind will find comfort that he is part of that now.

 

Its sad of course and I mostly feel sorry for his children who unfortunately will be able to find his death so vividly shown online.

That said, I am not sure I agree with using government money to bring his body home and flying flags at half mast.

He certainly said some polarising things which in itself is not something he should be brutally killed for But he himself said that gun death is something that should be accepted in order for Americans to have the right to bear arms. I wonder if his family and those left behind will find comfort that he is part of that now.

I was horrified a few days ago when on Twitter an American "influencer" was boasting that "unlike the UK", the US has a Constitution, a Bill of Rights and more guns than the whole world's armies combined! A fact of which he was obviously proud and which to him made the US the most powerful country in the world.

When someone pointed out to him the UK also has a Constitution on which the US's own constitution is based, also The Human Rights Act of 1998, as well as the Bill of Rights Act of 1689 which again is the foundation for the American Bill of Rights, he came back saying ..... "but, but, but you haven't got as many guns as we have"!

 

He has also destroyed his own family. They will have to move, change names and likely have protection in case some other deranged individual tries to get revenge by killing his family. He has two younger brothers.

 

So have I, TBH. And you're right, we had it in Western Europe as well. But we eventually fought against Nazi's, we didn't vote for them.

It seems that over the past year or so, the hatred and division has accelerated. Look at what has happened today.

They are already speculating that the person who has been arrested for the murder is mentally ill. He may or may not be, but if he'd been Asian and/or Muslim, they'd have labelled him a terrorist.

 

George Floyd didn't deserve to be murdered like that . He had a string of convictions and the fall out from his murder , all the riots and deaths that followed was awful.

If he had been white , its not likely there would have been riots.

 

I'm sorry I'm not quite clear on some of the points made here.
How does a white man killing a white man help Tommy Robertson ? Also the Nazis killed Jewish people, Jewish people are being persecuted by left wingers because of Palestine .
Sadly , I think religion causes huge problems too .

ETA I can't read article , It's behind a payroll.
I feel this thread is going off topic. It's not about our country . perhaps start another thread.

 

Yeah, no matter where someone stands politically, celebrating a death just feels wrong. It’s a tragedy for his family and loved ones. I’ve noticed on Meta platforms especially, people can get really toxic about this kind of news. We need more empathy, even when we disagree strongly.

 

The FBI has released a statement saying the killer had a transgender partner.

Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin lived with his transgender partner, senior-level FBI officials told Fox News Digital.

Bureau officials confirmed that Tyler Robinson, 22, was in a "romantic relationship" with the unnamed person, who is a male transitioning to a female, and that they shared an apartment in Saint George, Utah. Those FBI officials told Fox News Digital that Robinson's partner is fully cooperating with the FBI's investigation.

 

Wow, that's news. I read that after the shooting he went back to his parents' house for dinner and father talked him into going to the police (and drove him there). No mention of a trans partner being there. Trump makes it clear he has no time for trans people and banned them from competing against biological females in sport; Kirk would surely have held similar views.
The plot thickens.

 

It is the far left celebrating Charlie's death . I asked in another post how would Meathead use Charlie's murder to mobilise support when it's white killing white although the Nazis did gas the Polish and disabled people.😥 Did mention him? I never saw anything
On line about this.
Was the rally called Unite Britain or something ? Thousands turned and judging by the photos , there were families and all races.

There was also a counter-protest. According to reports, Meathead Robinson's lot was mostly white. And violent.
It's likely the counter-protest was made up of families of all ethnicities.

Yes I do know that , 6 million. 😭 Jews are a pure race , I suppose I see British white people as a mixture of Anglo saxons , vikings , the French . We've are not ancient Britons anymore .

White British is technically anyone who is white and born here. Homosapiens first evolved in Africa, and every person alive today can trace their genetic ancestry to there. Scientists reckon there are 15 to 20 different species of early humans. There was a trial conducted, and it found that most people on the planet have some Viking DNA in them. In fact, scientists now, when looking at DNA and fossils, etc; say that we have such a diverse mix of ancestry. Yes, "White British" in the traditional thinking contains a lot of Viking, Anglo-Saxon, etc, but that is a pattern spread out around the world.

But, sorry, that's me going off on a tangent, as I find it interesting!!


edit: I add to write homosapien again as it was bleeped out!!

I don't know what you mean by Jews being a pure race, either.

It is the far left celebrating Charlie's death .

I'm very leftist and not celebrating. I follow a lot of people on YouTube who have similar political views and are not celebrating, either. We do not mourn him, either. I accept some are, but certainly people I know aren't.

 

For anyone who may not have heard:
Recent politically motivated killings in Minnesota in June :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators

Kirks gig was profiting from dividing people and marginalizing certain groups.
His wife appears to want to continue his mission.

Here is a quote from Kirk:

"I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."

 

Thats the thing. His own comments in the past have given people free rein to be less than sympathetic.

Obviously violence is never an answer and its terrible for all involved....but its also weird knowing that if it was anybody else he probably would of seen them as an acceptable loss.

 

@Jackie C It's mainly the Americans, so many videos out there.

A view point from Trever Phillips

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwHrV_wCd0U

Oxford uni student Oxford Union condemns president-elect's reported Charlie Kirk posts

ETA @Jackie C I'm middle of the road but don't worry , I'm driving a tank 😅

 

Trump is coming next week . Lots of extra protection. Really felt for him when they showed the photo of him and Melania looking so sad , it was his colleague and he must have thought of his own near miss.

 

Nor is the "Far right"

I did to not say they were.
However they do to be significantly more organised, to have formed into specific groupsthat do to have such formats and to have significantly more publicity than anything onto the left.
Can you to name a far right faction, what they do want and the person that does lead that faction off the top of your head? How many can you list?

Can you to do the same for the far left?!
Just as dangerous, yet it does to be like trying to nail soup to a wall to actually define anything far left.

I see your point, I did cheer when the terrorist behind 9/11 was killed. However , we can pick and choose in a way , we can vote people out of power or boycott , demonstrate etc .

Freedom of expression and freedom of speech does to not mean anyone has to listen to you, to have to like what you say or to like what you stand for.
When you do to vote someone out of power you do to not be removing that persons rights. You do to be empowering your own.
When you do to boycott someone or something, or demostrate, you do to be exercising your rights, not oppressing the rights of others.

Rights do to belong to all.
Or they do to belong to none.
They do to not be switched on and off like a light.

So beware the snakes that do tell you they will remove only the rights of certain people and would to not dare touch yours. Once theirs go, yours go.
You do want rights for all, or no rights for yourself. There is no in between.
They do start with the weakest into society and work their way up as the dominoes fall.

 

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Just out of interest , how many refugees from the boats are housed in your area ?
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I’m not sure how many came via boats but there are 12 asylum seekers per 10,000 people where I live. None of them are housed in hotels. I am just glad that I do not need to risk my life by going in a dinghy etc. to another country.

 

How strange you comment on them when you barely read them 😅
I'm not going waste my time and energy repeating myself.

 

@TonyG You may well be right . It's scary. I was in primary school when president Kennedy was shot That was very suspicious.

 

Yes that was suspicious too, Kennedy upset a lot of people. Not necessarily because he did anything wrong but he upset a lot of vested interests.
Also convenient his assassin was killed not long after. Handy he wasn’t around to answer questions…

In this case, they’re now saying the suspect is refusing to cooperate. Perhaps he’s realised he’s been sold down the pipe.
Why would he meekly confess, allow himself to be turned in then become difficult?

 

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I’m not sure how many came via boats but there are 12 asylum seekers per 10,000 people where I live. None of them are housed in hotels. I am just glad that I do not need to risk my life by going in a dinghy etc. to another country.
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But you wouldn't , there are rarely women on the boats. That's a low number . If every town or village took a few in it would be less strain on the ports etc .

 

Five days ago three migrants were crushed to death trying to cross the English Channel - two of them were children. Three are still missing. It’s not even made the national news.

I think if you look up your own area you might find a similar low number of asylum seekers.

When Melissa Hortman, a Democratic state representative, and her husband Mark were fatally shot (as well as their dog) Trump didn’t attend their funeral or lower the flag. Asked the next day if he’d called Minnesota Governor Tim Walz about the incident, the president said, “I could be nice and call him, but why waste time?”
(I messed up including the quote from a previous reply, so I’ve deleted it)

 

I think he was . I feel for the family of the man that died.

 

I'd forgotten that - a guy sitting somewhere behind was killed. DT must have a charmed life to have survived that. I remember all his fan club were wearing a bandage on their right ear afterwards!

 

Insults at whom? BTW you made pointed comments at me.

No, i have made comments that do to both address what you do to of written and the wider issue with this country sliding into bed with white supremacists and people wearing a veil to pretend they do to not cuddle up to white supremacists whilst promising voters the earth and creating BS culture wars .
This, is your insult.

😅 You really haven't read my posts, have you? Either that or really don't have the comprehension to understand them.
Doh !

A similar discussion is on another forum .

I wrote " We have accepted and welcomed in the past from Afghanistan , Somalia and Asians kicked out from Uganda by Idi Amin . "



If you had read my posts , you'd have realised that my point was about the fact we now have 3000 refugees here and 300 more to come plus solo children who have to be fostered and the government wont help us out with cost . Our council is nearly bankrupt , facilities have closed , we have to pay for garden waste now, while many other places are not helping any. You are barely affected, you have no idea.

So lets address the me not to read your posts BS. Where in this thread do you to of said any of this? Said about how many people you dont want into your town?
Where other than asking me how many i do to have into my area have you to of even mentioned boat people, refugees or asylum seekers?
How exactly do you expect people to read a post that does to not exist into the thread i do to be replying into?

Or do you expect me to trawl through every post you have written elsewhere to comment onto a thread that does to have nothing to do with the topic?

Whilst we do to be onto the subject though. Answer me a few of these points.

How many people live into your town?

Council garden waste charging does to of been going on for the past 10 -15 years across the country, long before any boat migrants ever started coming here.
Given Garden waste is not a part of your council tax requirement, why does your council to of only just decided to join the rest of the country into charging for annon council tax funded service, and why do you think 15yrs of free garden waste when everyone else into the country either did to compost theirs for free or pay for its removal does to be a particular penalty to you?

Why does your council to not receive the same subsistence and accomodation costs from central government for asylum seekers like the rest of the country?

What does make you think your council going bankrupt and having to close amenities does to be in any way abnormal when it does to of been occurring across the country since 2010 when the tory government did slash funding, years before boat migrants did start turning up?