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Cat fleas - help

Discussion in 'Cat Health and Nutrition' started by pixiepixie, Jan 27, 2021.


  1. pixiepixie

    pixiepixie PetForums Junior

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    Ongoing saga of cat fleas, I keep getting bitten! I use indorex defense spray which seems useless and felisecto plus on our 3 maine coons

    Seems to last less than 2 weeks, they have been checked over at the vets and nothing was seen, that was few days after they had been treated though

    One of the cats goes outdoors and occasionally sleeps in a shed, im bitten mainly on stomach and side of my upper thigh, sometimes on my arm

    Feels like getting stabbed with needle then spots appear, feel movement but apparently I'm only one getting bitten in house, honestly can't take it anymore

    Cats scratch side of neck a lot, sometimes see fur twitching

    Don't understand why flea treatment not working, other stuff vet has is frontline and credelio, anyone used credelio at all and is it safe, concerned about side effects

    We tried advantage couple months ago and that didn't work either

    Any help would be great

    Thanks
     
  2. OrientalSlave

    OrientalSlave Shunra Oriental Cats

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    Indorex is effective but it doesn't kill pupae - nor does any other flea spray. The RIP Fleas website has lots of good information including about the pupal window which is what I think you are stuck in:

    http://www.ripfleas.co.uk/

    You have to be really through with the spray. The larvae hate light so crawl into nooks & crannies and pupate there so you have to get all those places,. Also a flea spot-on containing fipronil may well not be effective now. I take it you are changing bedding & washing it hot (60C) every week.

    Finally, could it be something other than fleas?
     
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    OrientalSlave Shunra Oriental Cats

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    To add, the Felisecto should be fine as it contains selamectin and sarolaner. However I suspect you have an infestation and until all pupae have hatched you will keep getting bitten. Interesting though that you aren't getting bitten around your ankles.
     
  4. pixiepixie

    pixiepixie PetForums Junior

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    Changed onto credelio last few days, been spraying indorex, I had sprayed mattress and sheets etc cats not allowed in my bedroom, hoovering every day top and bottom, stripped old bedding off etc and still getting crawling sensations on me

    Got bites on tummy, sides of thighs, on right arm, rarely on lower legs and left arm, also bites on scalp and forehead

    Kids and hubby are itchy but no bites

    Didn't hoover yesterday as wasn't feeling great so did downstairs today and got a bite on my knee! It felt hot and stingy, saw a bite there now cant see any bite at all?

    Could the indorex not be working? Was spraying skirting boards etc

    No idea what else to do, not getting much bites now but still get occasionally plus have constant crawling feeling on legs
     
  5. OrientalSlave

    OrientalSlave Shunra Oriental Cats

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    Could this be something other than fleas? Are you checking the cats every day with a flea comb over white paper? Flea dirt is very distinctive, dark specs that will stain white paper slightly pink if you moisten them?
     
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    pixiepixie PetForums Junior

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    Not seen any fleas, was at dr yesterday who wants to rule out scabies, but I have bites although Dr couldn't see they were bites as I had been picking at them, cream put on last night, was getting horrible sensation something was crawling over my nose, face etc still getting odd sensations this morning though

    Cats don't seem to be itching as much with credelio

    No idea what the crawling sensation is, still get pinprick like feelings as well, dr has me on steroid cream and piriton

    There is a bit of mould in bedroom, not sure if connected, thanks for help
     
  7. OrientalSlave

    OrientalSlave Shunra Oriental Cats

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    Ruling out scabies is a good idea. Also, have you changed your washing powder / liquid? Or has the formulation changed?

    You also need to try to deal with the mould but if the insulation is poor it can be difficult. Keeping the door shut can help if moist air from the kitchen / bathroom is drifting through, letting some outside air in once you get up can help as well, so will not drying clothes in the room. No idea how the area where it is is decorated, but you can clean the area with a mild bleach solution and I have a feeling there are specialist paints available to help. If it's at the bottom of a wall the damp course might be an issue, or there might be problems with the gutters / roof.

    Also remember that lots of people get crawling sensations thinking about insects, your mind can play tricks on you.
     
  8. I had an outbreak of fleas last month, I did ask about it on here but no replies. My cat gets 4 weekly Advantage so I was puzzled how the outbreak started. Anyway, I didn't want to use Indorex as it contains permethrin which is highly toxic to cats, and I couldn't find any alternative that didn't use permethrin or similar. So I tried the good old fashioned soapy water in a shallow dish trick. Have about 5 or 6 dotted around the room. First night each dish caught about 10 fleas and this has gradually gone down until now, about 10 days on, there's seldom any.

    I was only ever bitten around the ankles. Maybe try the soapy water in a shallow dish, and that might identify if you actually have cat fleas?
     
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  9. chillminx

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    The soapy water in a dish will only catch a fraction of the fleas in an infested home. Sometimes the fleas are smart enough to avoid the dishes completely.

    Yes, all household flea killers contain permethrin. As you say it is very toxic to cats, but the idea is to ban the cats from each room in turn while you spray, and air each room thoroughly for a few hours before letting them back in. When I sprayed my house a few years ago, I allowed each room to air for 12 hours to be on the safe side. The chemicals are only dangerous while still wet.
     
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  10. I was very doubtful about it, but it has seemed to work for me. Not been bitten for several days.

    As I said in my thread, my situation doesn't allow me to exclude the cat from the room, spray it, then leave it for many hours to air. We don't all live in huge multi-room houses!
     
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    chillminx PetForums VIP

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    Personally I don't know anyone who lives in "a huge multi-room house", because I don't move in the same kind of circles as such wealthy people. My house is small....;)
     
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  12. OrientalSlave

    OrientalSlave Shunra Oriental Cats

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    Even an open plan bedsit doesn't have an open plan bathroom...
     
  13. SusieRainbow

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    Totally uncalled for! You're obviously having a bad day.
     
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