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Buying a bulldog

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by Tom Davies, Nov 8, 2018.


  1. Tom Davies

    Tom Davies PetForums Newbie

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    Hi everyone, After some advice. I am interested in a bulldog puppy a chocolate tri carrier. However it is only up for sale for £1000 at 6 weeks old. Is this too cheap ?
     
  2. Goldendog

    Goldendog PetForums Newbie

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    6 weeks old is too young for a pup to leave the mum, it should be 10-12 weeks. Not sure about the price? Tbh I wouldn’t pay that for any dog!
     
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  3. Picklelily

    Picklelily PetForums VIP

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    Bulldogs are one of the most unhealthy breeds out there so buying can be a minefield, you need to be familiar with the relevant health tests the parents of a bulldog puppy should have.

    Here is a link to the Bulldog health council page where you can read about buying a bulldog safely

    http://www.bulldogbreedcouncil.co.uk/buying-a-puppy.htmlhttp://www.bulldogbreedcouncil.co.uk/buying-a-puppy.html

    Link to the kennel club information page on Bulldogs
    https://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/services/public/breed/health.aspx?id=4084

    Puppies shouldn't leave Mum until 8 weeks old so this one undoubtedly comes from at best a UK puppy farmer/ Unscrupulous breeder and at worst has been imported from a foreign puppy farm.

    I don't believe chocolate tri is a recognised colour for the breed which again would lead me to question how healthy this puppy will be.

    Finally do check how much a bulldog will cost you to insure as this is essential with any dog but particularly the brachiocephalic breeds
     
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  5. Linda Weasel

    Linda Weasel PetForums Senior

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    Agree 6 weeks is too young. I don't think any reputable breeder would allow a puppy to leave home at this age.
    Don't know the current market price for this breed/type but if it seems too good to be true then it possibly is.
    Does it have pedigree papers, appropriate health check (clear of hereditary faults) etc.?
    You need to tread very carefully here as this breed is known to have a lot of health issues. I would suggest you also, before committing yourself, check out Veterinary insurance for the breed.

    Edit: Crossed with other posts.
     
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    Picklelily PetForums VIP

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    Here we go

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    The Bulldog, is not recognised in any colour not listed in the breed standard by the Kennel Club. For example Tri/ Black and White /Black /Blue/Lilac /Chocolate are all marked on their Pedigree as Unrecognised Colours.

    The Kennel Club refuses to register Merle in this breed as it is known to have proven health issues.
    Unethical Breeders are promoting these colours as ‘RARE’ Don’t be fooled into purchasing one of these puppies and paying outrageously high prices.

    Please find a reputable knowledgeable breeder who will help advise you in your hunt for a healthy Bulldog Puppy.

    Look up Breed Club secretaries on this site who can help you contact breeders.

    No responsible & ethical breeder will ever breed these colours intentionally.
     
  7. bunnygeek

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    @Picklelily took the words right out of my mouth.

    Chocolate and tri-colour are NOT recognised Kennel Club colours and therefore the only reason that puppy has been bred and advertised is because it's "lyke omg a RARE colour lololol"

    That as well as the age being way too young, should be absolute minimum of 8 weeks to leave, ideally more like 10-12 weeks. The low price could indicate poor breeding and you'll need to spend quadruple that keeping the dog healthy in it's first year.

    Does the breeder have mum available to view? What are the litter mates like? Is mum KC registered? Is dad? Have they both been fully health tested before they were bred from? Is the breeder concentrating on breeding out the tons of Bulldog health issues or just making "rare colours"?
     
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    Picklelily PetForums VIP

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    I have to admit for the original poster if you aren't a dog person the information on buying a bulldog wasn't as easy to find as it is for other breeds. Lots of junky nonsense pages before I got to the correct information.
    I think the kennel club needs a good sort of of its pages for people buying their first dog.

    Anyway other places to find good information

    Champdogs

    https://www.champdogs.co.uk/breeds/bulldog
    Dogs Today magazine breed profiles

    .https://dogstodaymagazine.co.uk/

    Advice on buying a puppy
    https://www.bluecross.org.uk/pet-advice/buying-puppy
     
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  9. Rafa

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    The ideal age for a pup to leave Mum is 8 weeks.

    Under normal circumstances, there is no need for a pup to stay with Mum for 10 to 12 weeks.
     
  10. Tom Davies

    Tom Davies PetForums Newbie

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    Hello all thanks for your advice. I didn’t make my post very clear, the pup is 6 weeks old but I can’t pick up until it’s 10 weeks.

    I already have a red and white bulldog who is just coming upto 10 months so are aware of the health issues and insurances etc.

    I have a lot of questions to ask the breeder and I’ve already asked if I can see the mother with the puppies which she has said yes.

    I’m just a little worried about the price as my dog cost £2000 and am just a bit curious as to why this one is priced at £1000 considerably cheaper than most.
     
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  11. Siskin

    Siskin Look into my eyes....

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    Ive just checked out most of the ads on Champdogs which tends to be one of the good websites for finding puppies. Most are charging £2000 a puppy, the most expensive is £2500 and the cheapest £1500. So I think you have your answer.
    I should imagine the tri gene means this is less likely to be an ethical breeder and more likely someone out to make some cash, may not even be a full bulldog.
     
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    whatev's
     
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    Is there any particular reason you're interested in this puppy from what sounds like an unethical breeding? Breeding purely for colour alone which this puppy is if it's already being labeled as a 'tri choc carrier' is enough reasons alone to steer clear. And yes, compared to what other unrecognized colour bulldogs go for the price is cheap which would indicate few to minimum health testing on the parents/litter.
     
  14. Siskin

    Siskin Look into my eyes....

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    The only breed that I’m aware of that needs to stay with mum are chihuahuas as they are physically and emotionally young for their age. They do need to stay until 12 weeks, it’s the breed club recommendation. All others are best in their new homes at 8 weeks, 10 weeks maybe. Most bitches are heartily fed up with a litter of puppies by 8 weeks
     
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  15. Rafa

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    There really is no need for a pup to remain with it's littermates for that long.

    At 8 weeks old, they are usually ready to go off to their new homes, to begin socialisation with their new owners.
     
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    Is the pup from health tested parents? That’d be my first concern with a breed like a bulldog.
     
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    Perhaps this puppy is only £1000 as it is chocolate in colour
     
  18. Linda Weasel

    Linda Weasel PetForums Senior

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    I think that is a quite legitimate question to ask the breeder regarding the low price, and they shouldn't take offence at it or 'fudge' the answer.
     
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    It’s not enough just to “see pup with mum” as puppy farms often have a stooge bitch act as mum.

    If the pups suckle on the bitch I think that is a better indicator.
     
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  20. Rafa

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    Exactly.
     
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