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Breeding Dog Register

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by PawsAgainstED, Aug 10, 2020.


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Would you be happy to pay for a dog license if the funds went to ensuring the welfare of dogs

Poll closed Sep 10, 2020.
  1. Yes

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    33.3%
  2. No

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    66.7%
  1. PawsAgainstED

    PawsAgainstED PetForums Newbie

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    What do people think about having a Breeding Dog Register and to be on the register the dogs has to have the relevant health tests specific to the breed and signed off as fit to breed from. This would reduce the risk of hereditary diseases success as Elbow and Hip Dysplasia, some cancers breathing and mobility problems being passed on through the generations. To run the register and pay for welfare inspectors to check health inspect premises, enforce and prosecute where necessary we would have to find funding as the government does not have any to finance this. What do people think about bringing back the annual dog licence for a fee of under £20 this could finance all of the above and more.... We have a government petition on our facebook page Paws Against Elbow Dysplasia which if we get the necessary signatures will force the government to at least discuss this subject. If all breeds also had to have a breeding licence it would mean all puppies could be trace right back to their place of origin and their breed line. Puppy buyers would know to ensure their puppies parents were on the Breeding Dog Register and thus health checked.. a one stop shop so to speak.... I can save families heartache of coping will a poorly dog and huge financial costs in vet bills and insurance premiums.
     
  2. Happy Paws2

    Happy Paws2 PetForums VIP

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    Surely that's what the Kennel Club do, all good breeders are registered with them and you can find out all about them on there.

    Lets face it how many people look into the background breeders, to many people just go onto the internet for a puppy.
     
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  3. PawsAgainstED

    PawsAgainstED PetForums Newbie

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    Sadly the kennel club register litters from many dogs which have not had any health screening.
     
  4. The Wild Bunch

    The Wild Bunch Owner of dogs and referee of children

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    Nice idea but who would police it?
     
  5. PawsAgainstED

    PawsAgainstED PetForums Newbie

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    Exactly that is why we suggest a licence to get the funds for Welfare Inspectors in every local authority area something the government has not got the funds to do.. and the money would also be enough to run the registers in conjunction with Vets certifying the certificates...
     
  6. Happy Paws2

    Happy Paws2 PetForums VIP

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    If only it would work, but it will never happen, people just will not pay.
     
  7. PawsAgainstED

    PawsAgainstED PetForums Newbie

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    would only need 50% uptake - I think we would get that.... at least... especially if people realised how the money would be spent...
     
  8. LinznMilly

    LinznMilly Moderator
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    Great idea in theory, but only reputable breeders would sign up. Backyard breeder's and puppy farmers wouldn't bother. How would you make sure every breeder was on the register? Like you said, even the Kennel Club registers letters without health checks.

    And where does this leave mixed breed dogs?
     
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  9. mrs phas

    mrs phas karma is a funny old thing

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    Well there just won't be any will there:rolleyes: cos all byb and puppyfarms will immediately cease to exist, with a snap of a £20 note :Hilarious
    And
    there'll be no multiple dog households, as £20 per dog sounds reasonable,
    But
    soon mounts up
    As with the original dog licence, those that care will sign up, and pay up
    Those who don't
    Wont
    In reality, the bald truth is....
    the good old general public don't care enough to care,
    As long as they get the puppy they want
    When they want it
     
  10. The Wild Bunch

    The Wild Bunch Owner of dogs and referee of children

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    £20 a year is nothing. Even backyard breeders will pay that then they can argue that they're not a BYB because they have a licence. I know of some terrible breeders who are KC registered so I'm sure the same will be true in these circumstances and then a welfare inspector turns up and the breeder isn't in or doesn't allow them access to the property. Then what?
     
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  11. Burrowzig

    Burrowzig PetForums VIP

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    Not all breeds have required health tests.
     
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  12. Burrowzig

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    Only if the breed is one the KC recognise.
     
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  13. mrs phas

    mrs phas karma is a funny old thing

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    I think we all have to realise we, here on pf, are a small bubble in the grand scheme of dog ownership and, yes, we are educated about animals and we share that knowledge

    Not only do the majority of pet owners not know of this type of forum,
    Or
    if they do it's possibly a breed specific one, cos that's all they're interested in,
    They are woefully ill educated and unknowledgeable about their pets and just go along with whatever the vet says,
    or,
    if they even have ongoing contact, the breeder

    When they're looking for a pet then places like p4h,gumtree,Preloved are where they look,
    or
    they ask around neighbours/on fb to find out who has puppies, kittens, or litters of smaller animals
    They don't want to go on a year long waiting list
    or
    jump through the many and necessary hoops that 'proper breeders' want

    Who has been fueling lockdown pet wants? Certainly not reguarded and registered breeders,
    They too all went into lockdown
    or
    if they had a litter due, or on the ground, also had owners lined up for those litters

    Who fuels the wants for the latest designer dog?
    Again,
    not respected registered breeders
    and
    do you think the, far too many, breeders of designer mongrels,
    that people will pay far more for,
    than a purebred, tested puppy of either breed,
    will suddenly get a conscience and get their 'cash cows' tested?
    They're only in it for their pockets,
    Tests costing £100s will cut into that,
    so no way
    and
    people just want the fashionable mongrel, wait to do testing and the fashion has changed and the greeder is stuck with a litter of pups they can't shift,
    because
    they're all shitpoos
    and
    people now want bullshits

    In a skyblue world, the idea might be viable
    However
    In this sad, Verrucca Salt, world we now live in
    as I said before
    Most people don't care enough
    To care
     
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  14. LinznMilly

    LinznMilly Moderator
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    It's also a bit beside the point, as only in November the government were allegedly looking into the feasibility of bringing back a dog license or dog tax;

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1199209/Dog-tax-warning-dog-owners

    From the link above:

    Now, I'd be prepared to pay £20 per dog per year, but £100 per dog per year, I'd be forced for give up on dog ownership altogether and surrender the girls. :(
     
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  15. Twiggy

    Twiggy PetForums VIP

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    Great idea in theory but wouldn't work for so many reasons, some of which members have already listed
     
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