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Breeder websites - what do you expect?

Discussion in 'Cat Chat' started by Rufus15, May 29, 2017.


  1. Rufus15

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    I've been looking at various websites of different breeders from different breeds, and, although they have the basics, they also seem to be somewhat lacking. Is that just me, am I too picky? What do you look out for or expect from a breeder's website if you are looking for a pedigree to join your family?
     
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    I prefer to meet breeders in person at shows. Many breeders I know have websites with very little information or haven't been updated for years. I would also prefer the breeders to pay more attention to their dogs than websites.

    Where I found really informative websites is the US, breeders with things like parti color mini schnauzers, or Harlequin pinschers. LOL.
     
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    The main thing you will get from most breeder's websites is that they aren't good at websites! Even though I can do them (just put a 36-page website live for a club I belong to) mine is out of date at times.

    However it's annoying when there are no contact details.

    Also a lot of breeders now are using Facebook rather than their own website.
     
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    I do think it is important for a website to be easy to find with Google (including club websites!)

    It is difficult to decide how much information to include. People who show pedigrees are very helpful to both genuine and crooked people. I used to have pics of my cats and a brief history of my breeding but frankly, those who include all the gory details of their expectations of prospective owners simply give away their requirements so anybody can make contact with a convincing story of how they are the best possible owner for a kitten and believe me, many have no hesitation in lying in order to get the kitten they want.
     
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    Some breeders websites are out of date, but you have to remember that most also have lives and family outside of breeding. For me the most important things is to see that their Studs and Queens have been tested(Felv, HCM PKD etc) These tests differ for the breed of cat you may be looking at.

    If their website was out of date this would not put me off. If they couldn't answer questions that I may have. Then this would be more off putting.

    Buying a kitten is not like buying a new dress or jeans off the internet. You need to see it interact with it and be sure the kitten will fit into your family. This cannot be done by looking at cute pictures of mum and dad and their offspring on a website.

    You'll probably find also that breeders are putting less and less information on due to the fact it can be copied and stolen and used by an unscrupulous people trying to make financial gain. A case has cropped up on a facebook page I'm a member of - a lady took her kitten to the vet for a healthcheck to find that it wasn't a kitten it was a small 1 - 2 yr old cat and it's vaccination certificate and pedigree documentation was fake.

    What do you think is lacking from breeders websites?
     
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    I think of it for me is the lack of updates. I like seeing past litters, for example, and it's somewhat frustrating that their last listed litter was 2011 but I have seen them out on the bench with adults born in 2015. Time is likely a cause - as you said @PetloverJo they have lives outside of breeding
     
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    I agree that not having litter information updated for years is a little annoying, despite there being very good reasons for delays in doing so. However, have you checked to see if the breeder concerned has a FB page. If so, you may well find that they have far more current information on that. Although my breeder does have an interesting and regularly updated website, there are often almost daily postings and photos about her current litter(s), her own cats, shows attended and so on.
     
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    Sometimes people make a rod for their backs with an initial website with lots of up-to-date info which needs keeping up-to-date...
     
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    I also think more breeders are setting up facebook pages. It's easy to upload pictures share information and message all from one platform.
     
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    Except for the people not on Facebook!
     
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    My website is out of date because I can't back onto the admin site to alter the bloomin thing :mad:
    It's still there to read but is fairly basic. I don't think people check to see if I have kittens though as most of the enquiries I get ask if there are any kittens available. I use Facebook these days but don't put a phone number on there. People who ring get the number from the breed club website or from my website I assume
     
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    Yes, Facebook and club websites are excellent resources but I do find that when you're so new to all of this, it's overwhelming and one doesn't know where to start. I have been very slow to clock that breeders use Facebook as I always prefer to search for websites instead. And some breeders I know have groups as opposed to pages, but they are equally challenging to find and are often overloaded with owners sharing their pics. Lovely for the breeder but harder for the new buyer to understand or break into I think.
     
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    Google often finds Facebook breeder sites as well. I do have an FB group but it's closed and for people who buy kittens from me only.
     
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    I keep my website updated with show results, upcoming litter plans and with kittens weekly photos.
    We also have pages about us & how we came to be breeding, health tests on the cats, breed info, photos & info on each breeding cat, kittens in their new homes.
    Kitten prices are also standard on websites here.

    I do have a fb cattery page as well, I prefer a page over a group and limit who can post on there.

    Since most kittens fly to their new homes here, keeping photos updated either on a website or fb page is expected so families can watch their kittens grow.
     
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    It's interesting to see how different breeders work. I am a bit of a nerd and enjoy the upkeep of a website, but as a stay at home mum I have the time to do that where most breeders wouldn't, so of course they would prioritise different things with their limited time. I'd imagine too that, as most of my breed are breed by people in their 50s+, not all of them will be particularly tech savvy.

    On the flip side I can imagine it's so frustrating for people not in the cat fancy, most people will look for adverts so Facebook and websites are the best places to advertise one's self as a breeder. I think a lot of breeders are doing themselves and their breed a disservice by not keeping on top of their advertising. That's only my own opinion and not meant as a slight on anyone.

    It's allowed a really nice discussion so I'm glad I posted, thank you all :)
     
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    I asked a very similar question to this last year. It quickly became clear that what a breeder and what a pet owner whats to see on a website are very different things. I actually made changes to my website based on the responses. I also have a Facebook Group, and there are links to it from my website. My FB group gets more photos about shows and kittens, simply because it is easy to do. I try to keep my website as up to date as possible, I think the longest it has gone without an update is about two months.

    Indeed! I fell into this trap. I started my website at the same time I started breeding so things like my show results page and photos of kittens were easy to keep on top of. But as the years have passed and I kept more cats, it became a chore, so now I've changed both my show and kitten pages completely, and no longer have to make such an effort to take photos and update the pages as often.
     
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    That's partly why I've asked, I'll be honest. I've asked on Facebook too and some of the responses were surprising.

    I'm building my website ahead of time as I have a few things going on in the next 12 months leading up to getting a new girl, as my original girl has been neutered before she was mated, and it's been helpful to see what people do look for. I built mine initially as a very rough and ready page, leaving it unpublished and I was quite surprised to find I had most of what people would look for, but I was woefully lacking on test explanations for your average Joe. It's been very educational!
     
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    Personally, as someone who has been viewing breeder's websites, what I would like to see and know is....

    A health and well-being page giving details of all health checks and how often they are undertaken on the parents as well as the kittens/potential kittens.

    Details of how the parents and kittens are housed - indoors/outdoors, pictures of outdoor enclosures.

    How the kittens are fed and socialised.

    Whether they are occasional, hobby or breeders. Maybe roughly how many breeding cats they have as well as the types and breed of kittens they are aiming for.

    Pictures and details of all studs and queens inc. pedigree information somewhere (so pedigrees can be traced for any inbreeding or health risks).

    A bit of info on why the breeder started breeding, why they continue to do it, what their aim is.

    Pictures of past litters would be nice, current litters, future litters etc would be great but only if it is kept up to date. Otherwise, a link to a facebook page or contact us for availability is more valuable. Nothing worse than seeing kittens from three years ago showing as available!
     
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    I am not sure what health information can be gleaned from a pedigree unless the individual cats' histories are known to the person reading it. GCCF does not allow very inbred cats (no parent to sibling or full siblings to each other,) on the active register unless an exception is allowed by a BAC but most pedigrees will have a degree of inbreeding.

    I have found pedigrees fascinating ever since I had cats but most people never even look at their kitten's pedigree. Sometimes they ask what the red means! That is usually their level of interest.
     
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