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Boystrous puppy wont leave 3 year old bitch alone

Discussion in 'Dog Training and Behaviour' started by smallclanger, Apr 1, 2011.

  1. smallclanger

    smallclanger PetForums Newbie

    Nov 1, 2010
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    We have a 1 1/2 year puppy (Staffy, castrated). He is a lovely dog and full of fun and energy and always making us laugh but he gets bored so easily, we can't leave him alone for long with our 3 year old staffy bitch (neutered).

    They do play together but Beano (male) never wants to stop and will often charge at her or try to dominate her, chew on her ears or paws. He never does any damage but he is constantly trying to intimidate her.

    When she has enough she does try to tell him but this just excites him more.

    Weill he grow out of this or can we do something to stop it?

    We found recently that walks are better seperately as she gets agressive with other dogs when he is around but is usually fine with them when Beano is not on the same walk. It is a pain walking seperately so hopefully we can sort this one out too.
    #1 smallclanger, Apr 1, 2011
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2011
  2. Rottiefan

    Rottiefan PetForums VIP

    Jun 20, 2010
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    This is not any kind of dominance or intimidation behaviour (dominance does not exist in dogs- it is a grossly misunderstood and overused term).

    Your puppy is just being a puppy. He hasn't learnt acceptable manners yet, and this is annoying your other dog.

    You need to build more attention on you the handler from your puppy, as well as decrease the motivation to start playing with your older dog. Are you enrolled in any puppy training classes? If not, do. Choose a good one that focuses on positive reinforcement-based training methods.

    Teaching focus exercises with your puppy will allow you to ask for his attention when he's around the other dog and reward him for any calm behaviour. If this is consistent, playing rough with the other dog will become much less interesting and rewarding for him.

    You may also like to try keeping him on a lead when around your other dog and, whenever he gets OTT, removing him from the play session and putting him in a safe, but isolated area for 30 seconds. Then, bring him back in and allow him to interact. Repeat the process if he gets OTT again.

    If your older dog likes to play too, and just doesn't enjoy the rough play, this can have great results. However, if your older dog is not interesting in playing with the puppy at all, then it is better to keep your puppy focused on you around your other dog. Practise obedience exercises that allow you to have control, until you can keep attention and calm.

    There's a lot to learn, so be prepared to put some effort in. Get into a good puppy class and maybe even one or two sessions with a qualified behaviourist. As soon as you get into it, you'll be hooked!
  3. Sled dog hotel

    Sled dog hotel PetForums VIP

    Aug 11, 2010
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    Some pups and young dogs just dont know when to quit, If the other dog is not savvy enough to put them in there place and draw the line when enoughs, enough then some will just carry on doing it. They also get to a point where they get so hyped they cant switch off sometimes anyway. The more and rougher they play the more they cant switch off and calm down.

    You will need to call the halt when he starts to go over the top and before it escalates too much. Remove him to another room or crate it he has one and leave him to calm down for 5/10 minutes, let him out without a fuss but ignore him and if he stays calm, then praise and treat the required behaviour.
    If he does it again or starts to get hyped just keep repeating it.

    If he hasnt been to training classes, or not since puppy ones, it would be worth taking him back. Look for small structured well run classes with an accredited trainer who uses reward based methods. In the meantime, I would do 2/3 10/15 minute training sessions with him a day on his own, maybe mixed with a bit of play. Also if you can do at least some individual walks where you can concentrate all your efforts on him, and use the training in situ on a walk.

    He will get better with age eventually, but in the meantime he deffinately needs training and boundaries put in place, which should help you gain control.
  4. Malmum

    Malmum PetForums VIP

    Aug 1, 2010
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    Agree with sled dog on the training front. Nothing like some training, even just the basics of sit, stay, down, flat, close etc. It will help to tire him out also. You will have to intervene when he's roughing up your girl as it's not fair for her to have to put up with him, she obviously isn't going to tell him to stop herself. Just take him gently by his collar and take him to another room for a couple of mins and do this every time he gets rough.
    When you say he makes you laugh because he is being funny is it him being funny in a naughty way? If it is you will have to let him know it's really not funny otherwise he will be confused. You can do this by simply ignoring him, not even giving him any eye contact because if you do you'll be rewarding bad behaviour - that also goes for when you enter a room and he comes running up to you all excited.

    What age was he when he was castrated? if done too young, say before 18 months and they have not yet fully matured they can retain puppy like behaviour, which may explain why at 1 1/2 he is still very excitable. I have owned many Staffs and found they are very calm at the age of your boy but none of those were neutered so were able to mature at a normal rate.
  5. RobD-BCactive

    RobD-BCactive PetForums VIP

    Jul 1, 2010
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    Exactly! My pup was at 14 weeks old, tiring out year old Chocolate Labs and herding them around, running rings round them and turning them back if they tried running away.

    Intervention was key and oddly enough, supervising play more closely and adding calming breaks, seemed to be liked by the pup rather than resented. It certainly helped play vareity and quality afterwards.
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