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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by rona, May 12, 2020.


  1. Lurcherlad

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    I think politics was banned from the Coronavirus thread as it was more about helping everyone deal with the virus and share information, etc. and not a place for disagreements.

    This thread is an ideal place to discuss politics imo

    Don’t see how we can avoid it if the title is “Boris”! :)

    Nor should we’ve expected to, quite frankly.

    If adults can’t handle a frank (polite) political discussion they can avoid the thread.

    Opposition parties usually have all the answers though, don’t they? ;)
     
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    To clarify, we were asked to keep politics off the Coronavirus thread as that was intended for support and exchange of information .
    However the Boris and Trump threads I guess anything goes really ! ( within the bounds of decency and common sense, obviously )
    I do think we should avoid false information though.
     
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    Nail, Head.:)
     
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    Funny that isn't it? :D
     
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    Copy of a letter to BJ from the British in Europe which is self explanatory....

    It doesn't seem fair that a UK national living in France or Ireland doesn't have to go into quarantine on entering the UK, yet a UK national living in Greece or Hungary (as I do) where the number of infections are negligible compared to those countries have to self isolate for two weeks!

    https://britishineurope.org/2020/05...6AgtANSKJjAM1XWkJe0qWb9HdWiX8HwrdYHNrR6NHCB4A
     
  9. rottieboys

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    What has Starmer actually done....
     
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  10. rona

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    Yep, I understood and saw why but people were saying they wouldn't comment in this thread..............................
     
  11. SusieRainbow

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    And it was for those that I clarified the situation.;)
     
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  12. Bisbow

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    Nothing yet as far as I can see

    except complain about what has already been done
     
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  13. rona

    rona Still missing my boys

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    Absolutely nothing, except reading from a script. From what I've seen he's a robot, no emotion, no expression and no ideas..................
    He is 100% better than Corbyn, however
     
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    A shaven ape would be 100% better than Corbyn. ;)
     
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    I would hope the leader of the opposition is indeed complaining and questioning the PM and government!,
     
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    Complaining and questioning are two pretty different things. It's the way he tries to take credit for all the (in his view) correct decisions the government has made that really bugs me.

    I hoped he would be a little more, I don't know, aware of the context in which he has become opposition leader to use this time to support the government a little - whilst still of course challenging. And whilst his rhetoric does sound like he does, if you read between the lines, he's almost as bad as Corbyn at political point scoring, and this really isn't the time.

    And this is from someone who hoped he would win the leadership 'battle'.
     
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  17. MollySmith

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    I would imagine you could look this up? Indeed anyone can.

    One can type in that exact question into Google ’what has keir starmer done’ - so much more time efficient.
     
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  18. MilleD

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    It might be, but it isn't very substantial an answer. Particularly if you remove the 'bitching about the government during coronavirus' sector.

    Sorry, I really don't want to fall out with you as I thing you seem lovely, but the perspective of politics sometimes confuses what we think about things.

    He really hasn't achieved anything at all. The challenge to government absolutely is supposed to be there, but honestly, the way he spins it is something else.
     
  19. MollySmith

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    With respect as I don’t want to fall out with you either, it is my appropriate answer.

    Some context... I’m not a Labour Party member so I have no reference points beyond looking it up myself. My earlier reply was simply to state what that role constitutes and that I think he’s doing alright (based on PMQs - which I recommend watching). Nobody on here - even you and other good souls - could persuade me that Boris is better than a weasel though I do feel sorry for him sometimes, I’m certainly not going to erect shrine to Keir’s rosey chops (I’d hang up a poster of Macron’s side burns) . It’s way to early to say anything beyond he’s better than Corbyn. A wet mackerel is better than him. However this perhaps demonstrates something
    https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-care-homes-guidance/
    and
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ting-yougov-opinion-poll-survey-a9511611.html

    These threads easily descend into a political bun fight and holes get picked, we’ve seen it often and I’m out. It’s not healthy for anyone when it gets silly and nit pick - that’s not at all aimed at you btw, but a general observation. Like many I’m being super vigilant about my mental health.
     
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  20. Rafa

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    Politics, sport and religion tend to trigger strong opinions.

    Everyone has their own views and will express them. That doesn't necessarily equate to a 'bun fight'.

    I believe that if you willingly participate in any discussion about politics, you have to expect that others will disagree with your opinions and offer opinions of their own.

    If anyone feels that they can't cope with that or it would be potentially injurious to their mental health, then yes, withdrawing would be the sensible thing to do.
     
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