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Border Collies

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by kayz, Jul 27, 2009.


  1. kayz

    kayz PetForums VIP

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    We are going to get a puppy next year and we are still deciding on breeds. I want a Bichon but OH isn't that keen.

    He wants a Border Collie and I do too but we are both novices really. We both had dogs as children. I had a Boxer x Labrador who is 18 and lives the high life with my Dad still. OH had a Border Collie who was PTS at 15 as he had cancer, that was about a year ago. So we are used to dogs and walking them etc. But not actually training them.

    We have been told by loads of people that Border Collies are a breed you should really only get if you have owned 1 or 2 dogs before and have successfully trained them.

    I just wanted to get some opinions really on this. Are they a breed of dog that should only be with experienced owners? Are we better of looking for a breed we both love and that is good for unexperienced owners?

    Thank You
     
  2. Colsy

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    I have owned Border Collies all my life they are fantastic dogs.
    I have had rescued ones,farm ones and pedigree ones.
    Today i still have three and they are great.
    A little while back we lost one of our collies to a stroke and thought we would try another breed so off we went and did our research and found out about Goldendoodles.
    They would make a great family pet as the Golden Retrievers are great with children,a good all round pet and the Standard Poodle are great too.
    Best of both worlds.
    I can highy rate this type of dog they are so good we bought another.
    They are not to everyone's taste and i never thought i would have them !
    Any info on this dog please ask i seem to know a little bit now.
    Good luck with you search whichever dog you get.
     
  3. kayz

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    Is that what the dog is in your avatar? Absolutely beautiful.

    I love Golden Retrievers and Poodles and OH loves Poodles. His Aunt and Uncle used to have 2 standard ones that were gorgeous!!

    How big are Goldendoodles? My Mum has a Labradoodle that is a bit bigger than a lab.
     
  4. Colsy

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    Elmo weighs in at 38kg but is a very gentle giant.
    Hunny B is smaller as she is a female.
    You can get mini's as my friend has just bought a puppy.
    I must say i love all dogs and Border Collies are great too.
     
  5. Nicky09

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    Borders collies are so smart its ridiculous they really need a lot of mental stimulation and exercise but if you do something like agility with them they should be fine if you're willing to put the work in. My goldendoodle is a mini she's about half the size of a golden retriever and a very smart athletic dog.
     
  6. kayz

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    We will keep them in mind certainly. They look lovely.
     
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    That is something we would have to research. Would love to do agility or flyball. But not sure if there is anything round here.
     
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    Buster and Sophie do it and love it. If you go on agility.net they should have a list of classes near you.
     
  9. scosha37

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    Border collies are great..:D i have had them in my life for years now thye are very clever dogs and loyal and loving ,, but do need a lot of excersise and stimulation if you get that balance right you will have a fantastic dog!

    Good luck in whatever you do...:smilewinkgrin:
     
  10. Bobbie

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    I as a collie owner have to agree they are fantastic dogs very loyal to the handler but if you get one you would be doing it a disservice if you don't put the hours in training them they just love it. Once they have learnt the basics there is no stopping them. They seem to learn a new thing everyday.
     
  11. katiefranke

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    hi kayz, my OH has had border collies all his life and I have grown up around dogs, but never really had to be much involved in training them and had never had a BC myself.

    so we got a lot of 'advice' from well meaning friends and family that a BC was not the choice for us as our first proper dog of our own together when we got a pup earlier this year!

    ...but I really think it comes down to the individuals - if you are prepared to read up on the breed and about training methods before getting your dog (I dont know if you are getting a pup or rescue?) and start puppy/obedience classes early etc, plus can put in the time daily to do training, play, mental stimulation and exercise, then a BC can be a good dog for you...

    from our families' experience, usually dogs from the show lines, rather than the working lines tend to be a little less high energy and intense, plus the good breeders should advise you as to whether their upcoming litters will be too high energy for a pet dog...and if you are rescuing you will be able to see their temperament before you choose.

    we picked the quietest of the litter and she is still quite mental at times, but thats part of what we love about the breed.

    if you want any more advice or info on breeders/health issues/rescues etc, i have done a hell of a lot of research around it recently, so would be happy to share with you to help you make your choice - just PM me
     
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    We are planning to put in a lot of time and effort researching the breed and going to puppy classes.

    We are going to put 110% into training, play etc.

    We are planning on getting a pup. With kids we are a bit unsure on a rescue.
     
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    I still say get a mini schnauzer... look at my Bella!

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    :)
     
  14. kayz

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    LOL She is adorable!! I saw a woman with 3 yesterday!
     
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    Defo consider them! :D
     
  16. bmxwidow

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    We have a 4 year old Border Collie and she is amazing, so clever but like other people have mentioned, they need a lot of mental and physical exercise.

    The only thing I would say is (in our experience) she does have an aggressive side to her, which we have managed to control and notice when she is going to 'start' as we put it. But that's not saying all BC's are like that.

    I certainly would not let that put me off having another, and hope to have many more BC's in the future :)
     
  17. Cascara

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    I agree I have had two bc and was amazed at how each latched on to just one person and doted on their every move. BC's are very distinctive, they are extremely intelligent and need a very active owner to keep them out of mischief, they love learning and investigating and live to learn the next skill or task. It can be quite hard for two people when the dog obviously loves one owner more than anyone else.
     
  18. cavmad

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    I have two collies who are the most intelligent dogs i have owned but i do agility, flyball and obedience with them so they get alot of mental stimulation as well as off lead exercise.I love them and will always have them as a breed but since having Ollie i will try and get a short coated one so much easier to look after the coat as most collies love swimming and wallowing in the mud
     
  19. kayz

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    Katie has sent me loads and loads of information for me to read through. Really looking forward to reading about the different health tests etc.

    Cavmad, is flyball as fun and exciting as it looks? I would love to have a go at it.
     
  20. cavmad

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    Flyball is really brilliant the dogs love it and best of all the handler doesn't have to run too much. It is really noisey as the dogs get so excited. As long as the dogs love playing ball they will do it and its a good way to socialise human and dogs. Most clubs dont let the dogs start training until 1yr but you can always go along and do recalls with the ball and get to know everyone.
    If you want to find a club near you go on the British Flyball site and they give a list of all registered clubs in the country
     
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