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Border Collie Pups

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by carrie1307, Nov 2, 2007.


  1. carrie1307

    carrie1307 PetForums Newbie

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    Hello Everyone!
    Im currently looking for a femal border collie, any colours or coat types considered. If any1 could point me in the direction, or has any information it would be much appreciated!
    Thankyou All
    Carrie
     
  2. cadavell

    cadavell PetForums Newbie

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    if possible get a puppy who has been brought up in the home. my border collie came from a farm and was reared in a barn so wasnt socialised. she was a very nervous puppy and it has taken a lot of training to get her to accept strangers.
    have you had a border collie before? they are very highly strung and take a lot of training. they are lovely pets if probably trained.
     
  3. Stacey86

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    Hi Carrie,

    Check out our site which is the UK's number one for pet advertising. Its free and there is a very good selection of dogs for sale and adoption.

    Dogs & Puppies - Cats & Kittens - Pets for Sale at Pets4Homes UK

    Hope you find the pet of your dreams and dont forget to upload pictures of your new best friend!

    If you have trouble finding a new dog on the site then why not think about posting a new thread in the "Dog breeding" section. Im sure one of our members will be able to help.

    Thanks

    Stacey :)
     
  4. carrie1307

    carrie1307 PetForums Newbie

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    Thankyou very much!
    My boyfriends mum used to breed border collies and currently has 4, but she has stopped breeding now and 1 of the females is quite old, but ive fell in love with them!!! They are such a lovely dog! When trained right!
    I have a border collie X but im looking for a pure bred collie now.
     
  5. Tina

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    Sorry i can't help just wanted to wish you good luck in finding a new pup/dog
     
  6. Daisychain

    Daisychain PetForums Newbie

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    Just a tip - as with any other dogs, check carefully to ensure there are no inherited diseases in the bloodline. My last border collie developed severe epilepsy which the vet was unable to control, and we had to have her put down at 3 years old, which was really heartbreaking. My vet says this is more and more common in collies, as it often doesn't start until they are between 18 months to 3 years old, by which time they may have already been bred and passed on the faulty gene. :
     
  7. Vixen

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    Pets 4 homes is a really good site to check out. Id also suggest looking at the Kennel Club website:)
     
  8. Nina

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    Carrie, have you first researched this breed and do you work?

    I strongly recommend that you do NOT choose a Bordie Collie unless you will be with them for most of the day. Collies are extremely intelligent with a desperate desire to work. Without stimulation they quickly become bored and this can lead to behavioural problems such as separation anxiety.

    Their herding instinct can also lead them to be a little snappy with strangers and children and they are known escape artists.

    However, in the right hands, they make wonderful pets. They are loyal companions, but health wise they have a high risk of hip problems. As in a previous post, they are prone to epilepsy.

    I should certainly ask around training centres, and veterinary surgery's for recommendations as to the best breeders, and of course the Pets for Homes own website.
     
  9. Jenny Olley

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    I agree with Nina, they are a high maintainance dog. I really love them, the way they look, the way they move and their high intellegence and desire to work. My husband and myself both compete with collies, so these are very desirable behaviours, but as has already been mentioned can be a nightmare in a pet dog.
     
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    Have you tried the website Collie.net? they have information on all collie breeds and have breeders etc listed.
     
  11. Mika

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    Sorry, but can't agree about the 'high incidence of hip problems'. Lots of breeds are prone to hip problems and it is as much a fault of poor feeding, over feeding, and the wrong type of excercise as puppies before they are fullly grown. They are more prone to eye problems, CEA and PRA so I would ensure that the parents are certified clear of the problems and if possible the puppies have been tested for CEA as it is easier to detect in puppies under 13 weeks.

    You need to decide wether or not you want a 'show' puppy or a working type for activities ie, agillity, flyball etc. If show get a KC BREED registered one, not just agility other wise look for an ISDS registered puppy as the parents will have definitely been tested clear of the eye problems.

    You don't state where you live or how far you would be willing to travel. I will be having pups (not me but one of my bitches) but not until next spring. You could try epupz.co.uk, but some advice if you do, please check back with me personally as I know of a breeder on there that you need to stay clear of unfortunately! Court case pending and I am a witness but she is still breeding and selling until the hearing at least.

    Good luck

    ps. I have owned and bred BC's for over 30 years and never had one that nipped, escaped etc. It's all in the training whatever the breed!;)
     
  12. Vixie

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    Hi, I have 3 border collies a 13 year old a 1 year old and a 6 month old pup. I have never had any problems with nipping in this breed they are friendly and social. They do need a lot of exersise and obedience training is also a good idea, both my younger dogs are in training at the moment and realy enjoy it. I will hopefully be breeding from my new dogs when old enough but not for a good while yet. I hope that you find the right pup for you. Do not be afraid to say no to a pup when you visit one if it does not feel right. Buying a pup because you feel obliged to or because you are desperate for one is not a good idea, take your time and get the perfect match.
     
  13. dh.dti

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    good luck with your search
     
  14. satincollie

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    Hi Border Collies should be hip scored (breed average is 13), DNA tested for CL,CEA and TNS also eyetested for PRA before they are bred from.As others have said with good socialisation and consistant training BC's make excellent,loyal companions but you must work their brain :). Fantastic dogs wouldnt be without mine
    Gill
     
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  16. Nina

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    Since I have always owned German Shepherd Dogs, I am extremely mindful of hip scores and usually a good breeder will have the hip score of both parents. However, just because both parents have a good hip score does not mean that your puppy will. It can skip generations and come out further down the line.

    I tried to give a general descriptions of this breed, and I think most owners of Collies would agree that they are high maintainance dogs, who desperate need to keep their mind active. They are so intelligent, and make fantastic working dogs. There is nothing better than to see owner and dog working together.

    It grieves me to see owners who are out all day, complaining that their Border Collie is eating their house! As with any breed it is vital to do your homework, and order that you can live in harmony with your dog.
     
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    Hi Nina yes bad hips can jump generations and need not have been due to breeding as bad feeding and accidents can all play a part,but I'm sure you'll agree by having parents that are hipscored is at least trying to limit the posibilities. As some one who is involved in BC's I personally research further back into the potential pups pedigree looking at hipscores and other health test results in grandparents and great grandparents. The average person looking for a pet doesnt have these resources to hand so they should start at the easiest place for them the puppies parents.


    I dont look on my collies as high maintainance but then I am fully aware of their need for exercise and stimulation and I fit my lifestyle around them. However my personal opinion is that that should be the case whichever breed you take on.
    The only thing I would say is no one should fall into the trap of thinking so long as a BC has alot of exercise each day they will be happy. No all you will end up with is a very fit tireless hooligan who is looking for something to work his brian. Make them use there brain in a controlled manner for part of the day and they are then quite prepared to chill out with you in the evening.
     
  18. Jenny Olley

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    I agree with the above post, as the owner of 3 collies, two working competition and one retired, they need to work their brain, trying to physically tire a Collie, unless it is working sheep all day is a impossible task.
     
  19. Longbank Lady

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    Hi

    I am the very prowd owner of an 11 month old border collie. She's the best buy I ever made, that said I grew up with collies as my dad had working BC's and we had a border beardie cross and full pedigree beardie. I love my dog, she has a fantastic gentle nature and is great with my kids. If you have had previous experience with collies I would say go for it but if not do your research carefully.

    Good luck
     
  20. brownhare

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    Hi there are loads of BC's in rescue who need forever homes, I hope you consider taking a look at some of them. I would never buy a BC puppy from a breeder whilst I know BC's are pinging off the walls and being destroyed in rescue centres. Every dog I have owned has come from rescue and the animal behaviourists will work with you to find the right partner for you. Its great to and visit and play and take time getting it right. The canine behaviourists they don't want to see their rescued dogs come back and are in a great position to give offer expert help.
    I would never judge anyone for getting a puppy, absolutely each to their own, but would strongly urge people to consider ALL the options before buying a pup when so many farm BCs are in rescue.

    Good luck x
     
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