Border collie pup

Discussion in 'Dog Training and Behaviour' started by Kelly Harrison, Nov 14, 2017.


  1. Kelly Harrison

    Kelly Harrison PetForums Newbie

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    Hi just after some advice, we have a border coliie pup bella, weve had her around 6 weeks now. We also have 2 other dogs who dont mind her at all, however bella is at times very aggresive with the middle dog sometimes for no reason at all. Does anyone elsehave or had this problem or know what we could do thanks
     
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    How old is Bella ? In what circumstances is she aggressive with your other dog ?
     
  3. Kelly Harrison

    Kelly Harrison PetForums Newbie

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    Shes 12 weeks old it seems to happen when weve been out and just came home and also with food or treats we have to give her treats first.
     
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    Twiggy PetForums VIP

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    So your collie pup was only 6 weeks old when you got her? If so a bit young IMO and possibly why you are having problems now.

    Can I ask why you have to give her tit-bits first?
     
  5. Kelly Harrison

    Kelly Harrison PetForums Newbie

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    hi my border collie pup bella is being really aggressive with my middle dog especially with food and treats. we have to feed her seperatly as when she is finished she will greed off the other two and attack them if they have food that she doesn',t same with treats if they get before her she goes for them. I took her out tonight and when we came in she attacked lucy straight away. so I had to separate them. shes a lovely puppy and can be very loving shes great with the kids who are older and great with the older dog she just seems to have this problem with my middle dog.
     
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    I don't understand your post. You say she attacks them both if they have food and then say it's only the middle dog.....?

    You need to start teaching her some manners around your other dogs and quickly, especially where food is concerned, otherwise you will have very serious problems resulting in dog fights. Older dogs will only tolerate young puppies for so long.

    It's your house, your other dogs, your food and treats. You can give and you can take away. Put her on a lead at meal times and don't allow her to approach your other dogs when they are eating and do the same when offering treats.

    I have 4 collies and when I have a new puppy they are most certainly not allowed to interfere with my other dogs when they are eating and when I'm giving out treats puppy always gets one last.
     
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    thanks for the reply. my older dogs are rescue dogs weve never had a puppy before. its mainly the middle dog she attacks I do feed them seperatley as we had problems feeding them together, when I give treats she will attack the middle dog straight away so I give hers first. she has attacked my older dog only once while I was giving treats she will play with my middle dog at times but most of the time she will bark and attack her especially with treats or when she comes in from a walk or when we come home from being out. I just separate them and give the puppy time out and say no firmly as much as I love her I feel totally useless with her when she does this
     
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    Collie pups are very quick and very clever but you need to be ready when she starts this sort of behaviour and intervene immediately. She is doing these things because you are allowing her to. As I said previously have a lead or short line on her when you are feeding your dogs, giving them treats or coming in from a walk so that you are in control and can stop her. It's your house and you set the grounds rules not a 12 week old puppy.
     
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    There is a sticky here on resource guarding which may be helpful.
     
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    Personally I don't think it's anything to do with resource guarding, although there is the potential. It's a 12 week old pup who was taken from her mother and siblings too early IMO and is pushing her luck.

    I've also had collie pups at 6 weeks old and one in particular was very prone to puppy tantrums. She bit a very experienced collie breeder friend of mine at 10 weeks old. I lost her two years ago, aged 14, and miss her dreadfully and my hubby still gets very upset at the mere mention of her name. She was the sweetest, kindest little girl with a massive personality you could ever wish to meet. Providing you start to train her and teach her good manners now she should mature into a lovely girl.
     
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    Some good advice from Twiggy.

    We had a collie pup when I was growing up. They are very clever and you definitely need to get on top of things like this straight away. Once you do though they are brilliant dogs :)

    I think keep her separate at feeding times or on a lead like suggested. Do you have to give them treats all together? I'd try and limit the situations where you think the pup might attack your other dog. 6 weeks does seem young to get them, she might have missed out on some important socialisation skills. How much training do you do with her? Might be worth trying to do more mentally stimulating games so she doesn't have so much energy to put into these tantrums?
     
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  12. Kelly Harrison

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    thanks for the advice
    hi weve had a better day today, thankyou for all the advice its really helped ive kept feeding times separate kept bella on a lead when she tried to have a go at lucy and keep treats for when we train her. shes now sitting and giving her paw, we need to concentrate on the barking once she starts she forgets how to stop again its at lucy lol but distracting her with a toy seemed to help, shes so loving and adores my husband I think she misses him hes out at work a lot more than me so shes a lot more settled when hes in she listens to him more aswell I think its the tone of voice.
     
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    You need to prevent it happening in the first place. Put them in separate rooms before feeding or treats.

    Bring her in on a leash and don't allow her to attack the other dog but redirect her if she attempts it and ask for a sit or something that you can reward.

    Separate the pup from the other two when you go out, just in case.

    Each time she practises this behaviour, she gets better at it.

    One day your older dog might just deal with it herself, then you have major problems.

    Look at Kikopup and positively.com for tips.

    Look at resource guarding and redirected aggression.

    Teach her a firm sit/stay or come/sit so you have some control over her actions before she acts. If you see the warning signs of her unwanted behaviour break her thought process with an obedience command so you can praise/reward for that.
     
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