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Blue Staffy Puppy Skin Problems (Help ASAP)

Discussion in 'Dog Health and Nutrition' started by SkyeBlueGram, Aug 15, 2018.


  1. SkyeBlueGram

    SkyeBlueGram PetForums Newbie

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    So my puppy is getting skin infections I have had her at the vet 3+ times spent £400 and they still can’t find the problems, they took a skin scrape and she didn’t have mites, I’ve just started her on a Raw diet plan in hopes this will help it she’s been on it for 2 weeks now and no signs on clearing up, please need urgent help it’s sad seeing her in such a bad way!
     

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    U don’t mention her age, how old is she?

    I am sorry to bring this up, but as she’s a self-color blue, she may have an auto-immune problem. :(
    Blue-dog syndrome sounds like a description of depression, but it isn’t - blue dogs are prone to poorly developed immunity which isn’t adequate to defend them, OR they can have an over sensitive immune reaction that attacks their own tissues.
    The 1st version is more common; some pups outgrow it, & others suffer lifelong with skin issues, ear infections, digestive problems, etc.

    IF SHE HAS blue-dog syndrome, & she’s under 6-MO, getting her spayed ASAP is a good option, per many vets - she can skip the hormonal upheaval of puberty, & will heal faster the younger the surgery is done.
    Another supportive step that is safe is giving her both live probiotics *and* digestive enzymes; dogs with the syndrome often do not digest & / or absorb their food well, so U can feed very high quality, but they won’t get the full benefit of that excellent diet, it goes thru them & out the other end.
    RenewLife is a very high-quality brand, Amazon-UK carries it, they do no testing on nonhumans, & I can speak to the efficacy of both their high-potency probiotics, & their ULTRAdigest digestive enzyme capsules; i’ve used both, in humans & nonhumans, & they really helped.

    Probiotics, once well established, in the gut, only need a boost - especially during (if possible) & ALWAYS after a course of antibiotics. // Digestive enzymes, OTOH, must be given with every meal - the body cannot store them, they are needed 2x a day (or however often the dog or human or other mammal eats).

    I do hope i’m wrong, ask Ur vet if s/he has any prior experience of blue-dog syndrome, & BEFORE U GET an actual diagnosis or a referral to a specialist, I would strongly advise buying vet insurance & waiting thru the holding period —- any diagnosis or even a presumptive referral can kill the possibility of partial recompense for her vet bills.

    I am not a vet, so anything I say is mere opinion, & doesn’t count; Ur own vet, or even a referral U have not yet scheduled, could constitute a “pre-existing condition “ & then all future bills are out of pocket. :(

    Poor pup. :(. Poor YOU! - i’m so sorry to see her, she must feel mizrable.
    - terry

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  3. Jason25

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    Hi, I've got a blue staff pup that has skin problems too, we've had the idexx tests done (scrapes etc) they couldn't find anything, we're just waiting back to hear about the fungal test.

    We've changed her food to https://www.purina.co.uk/proplan/veterinarydiets/for-dogs/hypoallergenic-ha.html recommended by the vets.

    She's on half a 5mg tablet of prednidale a day
    Malaseb shampoo rubbed in a left for 10 minutes, then washed off. Twice a week
    Isaderm gel for where she breaks the skin, thankfully, she hasn't broken the skin in a while now.

    With the stuff shes on she seems to be managing it pretty well, the scratching has stopped a bit.

    We're also in the middle of changing everything possible in the home like floor cleaners, washing powder etc. We're also cleaning the house of the dust we can too.

    She's still scratching herself, but the patches of skin where the hair is lost is starting to regrow so I'm hoping it's food related.

    How old is yours? Mines 5 months.
     
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    Hello again, I've been speaking to a raw food supplier and they was said some things that might be useful so I thought I'd let you know cos we're sort of in the same boat.

    What does your raw diet consist of? They were saying I should put mine of veg free pork only diet because it's unlikely the pup has been exposed to that protein/meat before, so an allergic reaction is highly unlikely (according to them) so might be something worth keeping in mind.

    Secondly, they said it can take up to 6 - 8 weeks before your pup starts showing results because the pups body is still detoxing all the other stuff its had in the past and then the cells should start to regrow. Or something along them lines and you're only 2 weeks in, so hopefully you might start seeing results later on.

    Hope it helps, best of luck to you and your pooch mate.
     
  5. Rafa

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    We have a Staffy who suffers from quite a list of allergies.

    She is allergic to beef, chicken, turkey and lamb.

    We have her on Millies Wolfheart Pork and Veg kibble and now, her allergies are under control. She no longer bites/scratches and her coat has regrown.
     
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  6. SkyeBlueGram

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    It’s the nutriment raw stuff so like chicken turkey ect... but we have removed her off the chicken and trying turkey only for 2 weeks to see if that will work
     
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    How did you find out she was elergic to all that ?
     
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    Our Vet had an allergy test done. We have insurance and they covered the cost.

    Rudi is actually allergic to chicken, beef, turkey, lamb, peas, corn, rice, yeast, oats, wheat and soya.

    She also reacts badly to wet grass.
     
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    SkyeBlueGram PetForums Newbie

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    Did she get spots and hair loss ect ?
     
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    She lost a lot of hair. All of the white from her chest and her legs and paws were bald in a lot of places.

    Also, she lost a lot from her back legs.

    We've eliminated from her diet everything to which she is allergic. She also reacts badly to wet or long grass, so we keep her away from that.

    She is also on a low dose of a medication called Apoquel, which stops any itching.

    Her coat has now grown back.
     
  11. mrs phas

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    if shes blue to blue parentage then she could well have blue gene alopecia (colour dilution alopecia, CDA )

    ( from vca animal hospital site)

    which is prob what L4L said but she used words too big for me to understand;)
     
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    hi although your post is a few months old was wondering how your dogs skin issues are, we had the same issue with our blue staff and changed her diet to raw food only and after 6 month it nearly as much dissappered
     
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    We just got back from the vets and she was put on sterioids prednisolone her skin has turned blue again but her hair hasn’t regrow she still has the bald spot, not sure what to do next she’s been bald for some time and it’s a shame that no one knows why and the medication just made her stop itching
     
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    I’m so sorry you and your pup are going through this.

    If it is indeed connected to her colour, then it’s a crying shame these “rare” blue and fawn dogs are being sold for the big bucks. I’m not necessarily saying yours did, but you see them for sale all the time.
     
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    CLO can cause problems if you feed it regularly though - the vitamins A and D get stored in the liver and can cause damage.
     
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    What's your thoughts on extra virgin olive oil and coconut oil? I read that giving them a teaspoon of either once a day is good for their skin and coat? I've been giving mine a tea spoon of olive oil a day for the last 3 weeks and her coat seems a lot softer.

    I'm in the same boat, have you had any more tests done? My vets was saying it might be worth having the same test done again because there's a chance it came back as a false negative.
     
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    I'm no nutritionist but fish oils like those found in mackerel and salmon (the flesh, not the liver) which are higher in omega fatty acids seem to have more health benefits.
     
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    My 16 yo had infected lumps in his skin and hair loss that looks the same. Noroclav antibiotic prescribed for a gum infection has also made the lumps about 80% better.
    My vet suspects either too much cortisol (cushings) or thyroid problems both of which weaken the immune system. Has your vet performed any blood or urine tests and explained any results that are out of range ?

    I was investigating demodex mites they can cause skin lumps and hair loss in puppies with underdeveloped immune systems and older dogs with endocrine disorders . Hopefully he will grow out of it.
     
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    The bald areas are normally caused by an itchy dog biting/scratching.

    It will grow back. It did take quite a while for Rudi's bald areas to grow again.
     
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