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Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by Captain.Charisma, Aug 13, 2009.


  1. Captain.Charisma

    Captain.Charisma PetForums VIP

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    I was doing another one of those Dog breed selectors today, and i got Beauceron "selected" as the breed for me.

    However i do confess i have little knowledge on these dogs, apart from that they were tradtionaly used as both gaurd and sheparding dogs. While they also look like a Dobe-Rotti cross, with maybe some Malinois thrown in there. Although i cant decide which bit is from which dog :p

    Do they have wedge like shape jaws/faces like a Dobe ? or big blocky Rotti head ? or inbetween like German shepards ? and are they built simualr to Malinois , or maybe a Dobe i cant decide :S

    Quite funny how the dog looks like a cross between a Rotti and Dobe, esp how they are both on my "dog breed short list".

    But has anyone had any experince of a Beauceron ?
    What are its characterics ? i heard they are very agile with plenty of energy, like the Doberman, and Malinois. (which is good, as i like jogging :) )

    So now thats another protenial dog in my list, how does there character differ from Rottis , Dobes and Malinois ? Or are they very simular and theres no a lot of difference between the different breeds in character/temper?

    btw, why do they have a double claw ? whats the function of it, with its history ? anyone know :S
     
  2. Yogi B

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    French herding dog known for their fierce protective nature and double dew-claws, it is believed that Karl Frederich Louis Dobermann used the Beauceron as breed stock in the creation of his Dobermann Pinscher. This breed was found through out Germany in the early 1800's used by farmers for their flock. The one thing that has always stood out outside of the fact that yes they do resemble the original Dobermanns Pinscher ie: size, weight and head shape including the coloring is the fact that they have such a reputation for being very overprotective. This is allegedly the reason why Dobermann chose the breed. Loyal and naturally protective. If this in anyway defines a part of your personality, than likely it came out in the test. Congrats, great attributes that any would want to have. ;)
     
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    I had never really noticed this breed before :eek: so googled them. I think they are beautiful.

    (I know it isn't any help to your questions, sorry :blushing:)
     
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    I have seen them and competed against them at championship shows - and all of the ones I've met have been absolutely wonderful characters, very friendly, beautiful dogs. They look a bit like a dobie x belgian shepherd. Have a look at this site:

    The Beauceron

    The lady who owns the kennels on this site is a very nice person indeed, and very experienced in breeding beaucerons. I am sure if you contacted her she would be able to answer any questions you have.
     
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    Some great information there, thankyou Yogi again :). They do appear to have about the same shape and size of a working Dobe, and it wouldnt suprise if they had a large role in the creation of a Dobe breed.

    In the tests i chose i want a largeish dog, with high enegry thanks to me running and doing sports, and wanting to have running companion and i also selected i want a good protential gaurd/watch dog.
     
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    Yehh to honest, ive never seen on in my life either. I only know about them because they appeared in a couple of "Breed selector" tests. :p

    They are lovely though arent they ?? :D hehe
     
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    Really thats great stuff :), thankyou for the link, ive been on and she looks very knowledgeable and has got a nice site. I will deffiantly think about contacting her nearer the time when i get my dog, or i might do soon just to find out more about the breed :).

    I was also wondering, would the Beauceron be harder to train than a Rotti or Dobe ?
     
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    I love the Harlequin ones!

    Apparently, Gwen Bailey (author of Perfect Puppy and others) has a Beauceron. I don't know if she has a website with her dog on, but she'd be a good person to advise on training.

    Another website for you:
    Beauceron Club UK
    Stunning dogs! [​IMG]
     
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    All I know is they're utterly stunning dogs very loyal, very protective and high energy. I think however they don't make good first dogs probably need an experienced handler to make the best of them
     
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    Lovely thankyou very much, will check it out :)
     
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    Hmm, yeahh... So would you say there harder to train and manage than the other dog breeds ive mentioned around ? such as Rotties, Dobes, A Bulldogs ect..
     
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    I tend to think that any owner can have them even a first time owner if you get a good trainer/ training class whatever who can teach you to manage them. They are big and powerful they need to be trained and socialised from day one really. If you're willing to put the effort in and you sound like you are and get a trainer experienced with these kinds of breeds it will probably be fine
     
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    Then you should have no problem with this breed, excellent energy level and athletic. Again, noted for their very protective nature which when you look at Dobermanns philosophy he was looking for not an attack or guard dog but a protection dog, this one fits the bill.
    One other note, as they are herding dogs I think you will find that they take to training actually easily especially when they are kept busy. Like most herding dogs, they come somewhat equipped with a need to learn.
     
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    Nah i will deffinalty put both the time and the effort in, i just thought i ought to keep researching different breeds and asking advice untill i decide which breed would suit me best, and also for the right time to get the dog. At the moment circanstances arent right at the moment, as i want to go traveling before i settle down with my own place and own dog.

    Ive had experinces around GDS and Collies, i was out in the farm with my grans dog today, so i am but i am not a novice dog owner if that makes sense :p Ive been working and around dogs, just not owned one :p
     
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    They deffiantly appear to be meeting the bill then, thankyou again for your feedback. I just need to try and seperate wethers its characterics would suit me more or less than say a Dobe or Rottie now :p
     
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    I think you'd be OK then.... although Beaucerons might look like Dobes & Rotts, they are a Herding breed more than anything. From what I have read about them, I feel they would be more like GSDs than anything, i.e. herding but guard as well.

    Why not email the breed club for advice?
    I've heard that Gwen Bailey's one is extremely obedient and well trained, though she is a trainer and has years of experience with rescues & problem dogs under her belt. The only drawback I can see is they might be rather expensive as they're not very common in the UK.
     
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    Yehh, i think your not far of there. I wouldnt obviously not use my dog to herd, but i think being a runner myself , it should be happy with my lifestyle :)

    I will email the breed club about characterics of the Beauceron, and how it compares to other dogs which ive also talked about. Hopefully they arent to baised :)
     
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    Heh heh - they won't be biased at all! ;) Meg Purnell-Carpenter, who is the president of the breed club, is the lady I told you about in my previous link. She is a lovely person, and is very experienced about all sorts of breeds, not just the Beauceron. She will tell you all about the breed, warts and all, and will help you to decide whether or not this is the breed for you. She will also tell you if she thinks it isn't!

    Another thing you could do is go along to a championship show or to Discover Dogs and meet some owners and the dogs themselves - that might give you more information on their personality and trainability. You would also be able to see the other breeds you are interested in too at the same time - great for comparing!
     
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    I havent forgotten my thread, but ive been away busy researching the Beauceron as an alternative for a Cane Corso or American Bulldog.

    Ive learnt a lot about the character in which fits what a lot of people on here have told me. In which they were orginaly a herding dog in france, but now are used as police dogs there thanks to being intelligent, loyal, loving, very , protective, and calm but fearless. However this descripiton could also apply for a German Shepard couldnt it ? Even there sizes are about the same with males weighing around 80/90 pounds.

    The only differences i can see is they have rotti/dobe colours and markings, there double dew claws and have slightly shorter hair.

    Just wondered if anyone knew any differences between the german shepard and the Beauceron ? in its traits or apperances ? as we have had german shepards before in the family, i said i wouldnt ever get one, as it wouldnt replace my grans. So i wondered if the Beauceron is actually different or if its the French verison of the same dog with a diff colourings :p
     
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    Beaucerons are a very old herding breed gsds were only created about a century ago so there may be some beauceron behind them but physically the beauceron is closer to a doberman than a gsd. Temperment wise they're fairly similar

    Working line gsd
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    Beauceron
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