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BBC opportunity for unruly dog!

Discussion in 'Dog Training and Behaviour' started by CamillaroseLunn, May 13, 2019.


  1. CamillaroseLunn

    CamillaroseLunn PetForums Newbie

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    Exciting opportunity for the right Doggo and owner!! Please get in touch with me or reply via the given email if you own or know of an unruly dog and would like the chance not only for some help by professional behaviour specialist but to appear on TV!! If you happen to fall within any diverse group this would be a huge plus, for example anyone of colour or anyone who is part of the LGBTQ community. Thank you!!!
     
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    What sort of training methods will be used?
     
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  3. CamillaroseLunn

    CamillaroseLunn PetForums Newbie

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    The BBC are flying a behaviour specialist over from LA, I am not sure on the fine details of training as only on casting but an ideal candidate can be taken through everything!
     
  4. JoanneF

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    The problem with tv shows is that we have seen time and again so-called behaviourists and trainers apparently achieving near miracle results in no time. Sadly proper behaviour modification takes a lot of work with very slow progress which obviously makes poor tv. The people who get results often in fact just make the dog close down because the animal is so confused or anxious that it literally stops doing anything for fear of doing the wrong thing.

    There have only been two programmes I remember that were well made (Dogs Might Fly, and I think the other one was called something like Me and My Dog).

    Unless you can give much more reassurance about the methods this person will use, I doubt you will get much response.
     
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    Um......
    Definitely gonna need to know who.
     
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    If it's who I worry it might be, I'm selling my tv and cancelling my license payments!

    And, I just caught the end of The One Show that this is related to - they were showing a family whose Husky has just had puppies and cooing over how cute they were. No responsible reporting on proper screening, testing or the number of huskies in rescue.
     
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    [QUOTE=" If you happen to fall within any diverse group this would be a huge plus, for example anyone of colour or anyone who is part of the LGBTQ community. Thank you!!![/QUOTE]
    Good grief! A huge plus? Why?
    I utterly agree with the comments made by JoanneF, having seen a recent series in which miracle ‘cures’ were generated in just one visit and one return. It just makes it all seem far too easy and gives folks the wrong impression.
     
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    Good grief! A huge plus? Why?
    I utterly agree with the comments made by JoanneF, having seen a recent series in which miracle ‘cures’ were generated in just one visit and one return. It just makes it all seem far too easy and gives folks the wrong impression.[/QUOTE]
    I don't get why colour, sexuality etc makes such a difference to a dog which needs help, or rather a owner/family need training. That doesn't sit right with me...maybe I am odd thinking that but if the focus is dog behaviour then surely that matters more than the owners
     
  9. mrs phas

    mrs phas my home, my sofa, my rules

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    BBC have got to be shown ticking all the boxes, they dont want to be accused of having a white middle class bias after all
    I too caught the end of todays programme,, where they thought it was unfair not to let their dog have litter, just because it had been so good with the basset pup, it meant it would be a good mum
    Im sure she was, but, they didnt show it, no mention of the dam or sire being tested, they seem to have based the sire on his looks, rather than anything else. Everything that screamed dont do this! was totally ignored,no mention of the amount of huskys that end up in rescue, just all happy and full of roses
    I was screaming at the tv

    my dogs can be total pitas, but the phrase "not touching with a barge pole" comes to mind, especially with all the secrecy surrounding the L.A trainer. Theres a plethora of good positive homegrown trainers out there, without wasting my lisence fee
     
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    This is simply the first task I have been given as an intern at the production company, the reason they are looking for some diversity and why I’m posting in many online forums is they have already had many applicants through the routine route with no diversity at all, and ideally the company want to represent more on the show. The segment is around 5 minutes during the one show it’s not a whole show so it won’t be a thorough session with the dog. I am asking around on the chance someone may feel they fill the criteria and is up for it. Sorry to cause any negativity on here.
     
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    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...s-and-job-applicants-over-training-placement/

    ^^^^^^^ You will all no doubt remember this, or should (not that long ago). They obviously apply the same criteria to dog training. Does it mean that white, middle-class, heterosexual people need not apply? If not, I wonder why the ''diverse group'' is even mentioned? And the method not?

    @CamillaroseLunn: Sorry, not having a dig at you personally (don't shoot the messenger and all that) it's directed at the BBC of course.
     
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    Sorry it's been such a baptism of fire for you. We do get a bit passionate over who we allow to interact with our dogs. And the reluctance to elaborate (not just you, it's a common thing) just makes us super-suspicious. So I guess the lesson for you here is to be very prepared to answer lots of questions when you are asking people to allow someone access to what they hold precious.
     
  13. CamillaroseLunn

    CamillaroseLunn PetForums Newbie

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    That’s ok I understand why people are getting angry the industry isn’t great at times. As i said this is Just the task I’ve been given for the work experience, I don’t want to offend any doggo owners!
     
  14. mrs phas

    mrs phas my home, my sofa, my rules

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    Sorry @CamillaroseLunn but after some of the articles and programmes produced by the bbc ( on any of its formats), any good owner, is unlikely to apply unless they have the full and true facts
    Not because we dont care, but because we do. Our dogs welfare and comfort come first, always. What if we were to apply, get picked, turn up and find it was a certain Mr CM? I wouldnt, personally, have him within a million iles of my dogs
    also
    just what does a 5 minute segment hope to show/achieve? the answer, in the real world, is nothing at all, but in tv land there'll be 1000's of owners who think
    well it only took them 5 mins to correct X, so thats all the chance I'll give my dog
    then when it takes longer they give up on the dog

    Not having a pop at you by any means, Im afraid the 'BBC One Show Bigwigs' know full well that this is a can of worms and to give the job, and only part of the infirmation, to a raw intern is totally beyond belief, cowardly and quite cruel in their intent ( to you)
    theyve set you up for a kicking sweetheart
    Just dont think anyone here blames you
     
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    I just want to echo what has already been said @CamillaroseLunn , that no one is having a personal pop at you.
    Most of us on pet forum are actually very nice people, and none of us I'm sure would want to upset you or make you feel bad. We are however, all extremely protective of our dogs and certainly wouldn't volunteer to put them in a situation that we know absolutely nothing about.
    I absolutely agree with @mrs phas that the powers that be in the bbc would, in all likelihood, have had a very good idea of what you might come up against when they gave you this assignment.
     
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    Then Cesaer would get the same things he does to dogs right back.
     
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    Overuse of exclamation marks - 3 sentences, 7 exclamations. Bloody hell.
    We've had a few of these posts before. The last one turned out to be for that dog father bloke who uses yanks on the lead and keeps on 'upping the ante' before the dog is ready. All heavily edited of course to make it look like real changes can be achieved in the span of a few hours (or minutes). We know that dog training doesn't work like that.
     
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    Surely if it's enforced diversity, it's not diversity at all?
     
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    How do they know this, @CamillaroseLunn? Do applicants have to fill out an ''ethnicity monitoring form''? And are they outright asked, ''Are you gay?''. I wish you well; no-one is ''angry'' with you; sorry if it comes over that way.
     
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