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Awaiting blood tests for 23 year old cat - worrying!

Discussion in 'Cat Health and Nutrition' started by Callyq, Dec 28, 2020.


  1. Callyq

    Callyq PetForums Junior

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    Hello all,

    I only seem to post on here when one of my pets are poorly, but I find your advice and help - especially when I lost my dog in the summer - very comforting.

    Blake, my 23 year old cat has IBD. His symptoms have improved lots since moving him into raw food about 2 years ago. He’s had two flair ups that I remember that were particularly bad and required the vets. He was on medication (prednisone I think?) but with a raw diet has been doing very well.

    He started with sickness and diarrhoea yesterday, along with drinking a lot of water but also peeing a lot. The vet thinks it could be his kidneys or thyroid, we are waiting for the results which should be back Wednesday. She said he was very dehydrated and wanted to keep him on a drip overnight but he’s a really bad patient and last time he was in for an op he ripped out his drip himself. So he’s home with me and has had a drink since, as well as a few mouthfuls of roast chicken - vet said this was allowed!

    Sorry for the long post, I was just wondering if anyone has been through anything similar? Or what can I expect if he’s got anything wrong with his kidneys or thyroid?
     
  2. Douglas’ Dad

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    So sorry to hear about your cat. It must be very stressful. My cousin’s cat had CKD and thyroid issues too. I’m attaching a link to a site called Vet Professionals. It’s run by Sarah Caney, an RCVS feline specialist and an expert on cat health. If you register for Helpful Info (click on the menu for this), you will see video tutorials and recordings of webinars on thyroid and CKD issues that Sarah has run which will give you an insight into these issues (and indeed so many other cat health topics like FIC etc).

    https://vetprofessionals.com/site/

    Also, if your cat doesn’t like to stay in-clinic to be hydrated, the vet could teach you how to hydrate him via subcutaneous injections yourself at home perhaps?

    https://icatcare.org/advice/how-to-give-subcutaneous-fluids-to-your-cat/

    I’m assuming of course he’s on wet food. Dry food must not be given in this instance at all.
     
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  3. Callyq

    Callyq PetForums Junior

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    Thank you so much for the link, I'll have a look at those webinars.

    The vet did say if he hadn't improved by tomorrow he'd need to be admitted but he's looking a lot better than he did so I'm keeping my fingers crossed he's feeling better. He's raw fed, no dry food here!
     
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    Wow! 23!!!! That is a grand old cat!

    Im afraid i cant help at all. We did have a cat with suspected kidney failure at 16yrs old. No tests done but the vet said the kidneys felt small, she was drinking tons and tons.

    It is quite a few years ago and i cant recall the exact time frame or events but she started to spend her time sleeping in a warm airing cupboard hidden away which was most unusual.

    One morning, she started fitting. It was so distressing to see, i took her straight to the vet and she was pts.

    I thought 16 was a good age though - it never really occurred to me that she might have not lived out her full natural life. So we very much went down a no treatment route. I dont think the vet even offered any treatment as such. I cant remember what was done.

    Sorry, that was no help at all was it?!
     
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    I have had a cat with CKD and one with hyperthyroid. The cat with hyperT received thyronorm medication which we just put in his food and he did very well on it, eventually succumbing to a tumour.

    My CKD kitty slowly went down hill and lost a lot of weight and muscle mass. CKD is a progressive illness and there is nothing ultimately that will prevent it.

    Subcutaneous fluids helped my girl for a while. They are easy to do at home and the needle doesn't hurt as it's so fine. My kitty used to sit patiently licking her tube if lick e lix or being fed treats whilst the fluid went it. She really perked up after each treatment.

    This site is good for info on CKD... https://www.felinecrf.org/
     
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  6. Callyq

    Callyq PetForums Junior

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    Thank you all.

    Blake was well this morning, he even had a zoom around the house and a play :) he tried to poop and couldn’t though, I’m obviously no expert but I’m wondering if him being dehydrated is causing it.

    Test results should be back tomorrow, I’ll keep you updated.
     
  7. Douglas’ Dad

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    Seems like a reasonable conclusion. After all dehydration can cause constipation in humans. But others will probably have more experience in this.
     
  8. Callyq

    Callyq PetForums Junior

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    So Blake has CKD, but she’s happy with how he is so we’re just going down the diet route for now? She’s suggested Royal Canin. I think I’ll look in the threads and see if there’s anything about it. Blake is raw fed, and that was after years of trying all foods, including the good stuff from Germany! So I’m reluctant to make the switch but I obviously want what’s best for Blake.
     
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    Others may have their own views but I don’t like any of the prescription diets unless absolutely necessary. They aren’t the best quality. Please consider adding a phosphorus binder to your raw food to achieve a similar result. Usually you can imitate the benefits of a prescription diet by supplementing your own choice of food appropriately. For example if you need a Urinary prescription food you don’t need to use Royal Canin or Hills c/d. You can add vitamin C or DL Methionine to regular food (to acidify) and add calming supplements (eg Zyklene) and GAG protection (eg Feliway Cystease). Job done.

    Sure there is something similar possible for CKD diets.
     
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    Callyq PetForums Junior

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    This is what I’m worried about. It’s taken us a while but after years of issues with his IBD we are off medication and he poops perfectly now (what a silly thing to say! I talk about poop a lot these days!). What if we eat this royal canin and it causes more bother? I am open to all opinions and options though!
     
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    There’s another thread with a cat parent with exactly the same issues as your dear cat (IBD/CKD/Aversion to prescription diets). Let me try and dig the link out as there was quite a detailed discussion on this I seem to recall.
     
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    Thank you so much!
     
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    Have a read of the https://felinecrf.org/index.htm website. There is a whole section on feeding. But although there is a lot to read I recommend you read the whole website and digest it before making any changes.

    I got a lot of pushing from the vet nurses to give my CKD cat a low protein dried vet prescribed diet. I personally didn't want to follow this route as firstly she was always very dehydrated so getting fluids in her was a priority. Feeding a dry diet didn't support that. Also muscle wastage is a real issue with CKD, the cat breaking down their own muscle protein. Low protein foods in my personal experience don't help with this issue. A phosphorus binder and a good quality meat diet is another alternative to research. If your cat has dietary restrictions then it is right to consider that when working out your feeding plan.
     
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  15. Callyq

    Callyq PetForums Junior

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    Thank you so much fro digging this out for me - sorry for the delay in replying, it's been manic here (not cat related thank goodness!)

    Blake is doing really well, he's back to his usual self of running around and hiding behind corners to jump out at me! I Haven't changed his diet, I did give him a sample of the food the vet recommended and he did eat it, but I haven't committed to changing it! I'll give all the reading a look hopefully tonight. Thanks again.
     
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    Really pleased Blake is on form! Follow your gut. No one knows your cat better than you.
     
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