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At the end of my tether

Discussion in 'Cat Chat' started by Jayne31, Sep 8, 2019.


  1. Jayne31

    Jayne31 PetForums VIP

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    So I've just come home from being away overnight. I come in the front door to find my hall carpet has been pulled - again, and that my bed and mattress is soaked with cat pee!

    They have full access to the garden AND 2 cat litter trays

    I am completely at the end of my rope.
     
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    Really sorry to hear this. My cat once did this. I had to buy a new bed.
    I think you will have to buy a new mattress. I would also buy waterproof mattress covers on all your beds and not let them up stairs.
    As for the carpet in the Hall mine also have done this. I am gong to put hard flooring down. Think this is a common problem.

    As you were not around you don't know if something frightened them. Also you wont know which cat did it.
    Limit them to certain areas of your home.
     
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    They might have been feeling anxious and stressed because they missed you and didn't know where you were. Mine hate it when I've stayed away overnight.

    As well as replacing the mattress I would spray the hall with an enzyme cleaner to remove all odours and maybe use a plug in like Pet Remedy if you need to stay away again?
     
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    New mattress has been ordered - delivery Tues. Most of the bedding now washed, just need to go to Laundrette and get duvet washed.

    Unfortunately Pet Remedy, Feliway, Beaphar don't have any affect on them - I've tried. This is the first time I've had pee on the bed. I am due to be away a lot in October, so they will have to be limited to kitchen when I'm not around
     
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    TriTri Standing up for cats

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    Oh dear. How many cats do you have @Jayne31 ? How many hours were they left alone without their litter trays being emptied? Some cats don’t like to toilet outside, or they may have had a reason to not want to go out or have been afraid to go outside. The general rule with litter trays is one tray per cat plus one more, but if they aren’t going to be cleaned out soon after use, more litter trays would be required. Cats are clean animals and don’t like to use a dirty tray. If you don’t want to buy more trays, then the cats will need someone to make visits to refresh the litter trays.
     
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    Why are you assuming that they have been left without litter trays being emptied? I have 2 cats, they have constant access to the garden and they even have their own "spot" in the garden for their toilet which is cleaned regularly. They have 2 trays inside both of which were clean and new litter in before I went. I was only away overnight. When I am away I have someone come in twice a day to feed them and they sort the litter tray if necessary. On this occasion the trays had not been used

    I am quite aware of how fastidious cats are having had cats for most of my adult life.
     
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    A good enzymatic cleaner and bio washing powder.
    I agree about the mattress pad and keeping them out of the bedroom at least temporarily.
     
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    Have washed all the bedding with bio washing and on a higher temp than normal. They won't be allowed in the bedrooms for the foreseeable, and when I'm not home they'll have to stay in the kitchen. I've got a new mattress being delivered tomorrow and hopefully the old one being collected today.
     
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    Is it possible something spooked them outside, maybe another cat or a fox or a car backfiring and you weren't around for reassurance.
    They maybe used your bed because it has your scent and they used that to mix their scent with yours. It's not an uncommon reaction to fear.
    As for your carpet, do you mean they pulled threads? If so it sounds as though they have been trying to use it to scent mark, again, due to your absence.
    I understand your frustration but I think there are anxiety issues here and imo you need to look at what is causing it.
    Sorry, not much help when you're knee deep in pee! I agree with what others have said regarding waterproof covers for mattresses and strong cleansers.
    I suppose you've already asked your cat sitter if they have any idea what may have scared them.
     
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    Is it possible that it wasn't your cats that pee'd ?Could another cat have gained access to the house while there was no one around .
    If so then you might be blaming the wrong cats for the soaked bed or they have been so upset by it they pee'd there
     
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    I've no clue if something spooked them. My cat sitter did say that when she came in Sat evening they flew down the stairs and out the cat flap - but this behaviour isn't unusual for them. They are both anxious cats, I've no idea why though. I've had them since they were 14 weeks old, they were socialised with humans coming into the house but now won't stay in the house if I have anyone here.

    I've tried all the plug ins that are recommended, zyglene, beaphar calming and nothing makes any difference to how they react. Bonnie has had a few bouts of cystitis and is on Cystophan.

    As for the carpet, it's been pulled up from under the metal door bar things.

    I'm struggling with how they are, it makes life difficult. I am loathe to have anyone to stay or visitors purely because of how the cats react. I've recently started taking meds for anxiety and depression and this hasn't helped.
     
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    I wouldn't have thought so. No windows were left open and the cat flap only works with their microchips.
     
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    Trouble outside can translate into trouble inside. If they are being bullied - for example by a new to the area cat - this is what can result. I take it other cats etc. can get in your garden? Proofing it against escape and intrusion might be the best long-term solution. There are other things to consider. One of them might have a urinary problem, and you don't say how old they are. In older cats arthritic problems can lead to peeing in the wrong place. And whilst these are things that will probably only affect one cat, the other would pee there as well just because it smells of pee.

    BTW I don't wash hotter than usual for things that smell of pee as the enzymes in biological washing powder or liquid don't work so well over 40C. A pre-soak can help.
     
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    Yes other cats can come in the garden. Proofing the garden isn't possible as I'd have to get permission from my housing assoc plus we don't have 6ft wooden fences between our properties. All we have is plastic coated chicken wire fences which are approx 4ft tall.

    The cats are 5 years old and apart from Bonnie's occasional cystitis bouts they are full of beans.

    Clyde doesn't go out of the garden, he doesn't really jump and the furthest Bonnie goes is my neighbours.

    Never mind, what's done is done. Everything had been cleaned and new mattress comes tomorrow.
     
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    My cat only goes for the carpet by the door if locked in a room. Are they ok with the cat flap?
     
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    The first time I came home to find the carpet up I thought exactly that - perhaps my cat sitter had accidentally shut the door between the hall and living room which would prevent them getting to the kitchen and their trays. After that incident I got a door stop so that was jammed under the hall door so I know they weren't shut out this time.

    They're fine with the cat flap
     
  17. TriTri

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    I totally agree @Cully, cat’s don’t urinate on beds for no reason. Saying “never mind, what’s done is done” isn’t going to stop the cat urinating elsewhere next time they are left. If the cats don’t like to stay in the home if someone else is there, chances are they were stressed out by the cat sitter being there. I would want to know why my dear cat was so stressed as to do such a thing and if it were medical. What happens if the bedroom door gets left open accidentally? You can’t keep buying replacement mattresses and bedding. It could be the sofa next time. The door stop was a good idea and sounded likely the door had been accidentally shut. Maybe the cat got shut in the bedroom .... most likely cause.
    Maybe finding a cat loving cat sitter, the cats like enough to be inside the home with, would be my first step to trying to sort out this problem. (Several introductions beforehand). If they like cats a lot and understand cats needs, the cats should sense it and be at ease with them.
     
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    There's some good sentiment here and defintely not a suitation to ignore, however I would say that the idea of just finding the right cat sitter is the answer and they'll be fine with them is a little off the mark. We have regular cat sitter who is a close friend of ours, she loves the cats and visits regularly to see them and is very in tune with them as she's owned cats all her life. However our cat Ecplise still wee's on the sofa when she comes into the house and we're not there, the cat sitter is doing everything right, but that bond can take a really long time to build and some cats are never able to feel comfortable with anyone in the home when their owner is away. We're working on ways to help Ecplise feel calmer while we aren't here, but not sure it's that straight forward. Sounds as though Jayne has already tried a few options such as plug-ins etc, they sound like very nervous cats who might always struggle with this suitation, but it can be managed.
     
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    Hi,
    Not sure if this was mentioned as have not read all the replies but in reading the last reply. Would a cattery work while you are away?
    For overnight trips, maybe just a timed feeder so no need for a strange person to come in.
     
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    As I understand it, the cats have access to outside. I'm not sure whether being left overnight in that situation is a good idea (appreciate you haven't read whole thread).
    It sounds like nervous cats are stressing even more when OP leaves them. It's the underlying anxiety that needs addressing.
    Not sure a strange cattery would help.
     
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