Its the Fish4Dogs kibble, it has to be :thumbup: Since Saturday lunch time all I have given him to eat is kibble (bar a bit of steak he nicked off Milo but it seems irrelevant). So he's had kibble Saturday afternoon and evening, kibble Sunday morning, afternoon and evening, kibble Monday morning, afternoon and evening and kibble Tuesday morning, afternoon and evening. Sunday he seemed a bit tired and lethargic but not too bad. Monday he really was very tired, with droopy eyelids. Yesterday he did literally nothing all day, I didn't even walk him (I know, but he wasn't that up for it and its part of me trying to find out what it is without him doing lots of play/walks to add to the tiredness). Already today he's got up, had his kibble and he's laid in the chair in the front room asleep with very, very droopy eyelids and red eyes. Got to do another part of the test and try cutting the kibble to maybe just bedtime or morning and bedtime and see how he goes with the wet food (Nature's Harvest) he has, I'm thinking maybe its a lack of energy the kibble is giving him as opposed to him being intolerant/having an allergy..? Hoping he will perk right up on it to confirm what I'm thinking so far... AND bit of a bonus, just told Mum all this and she was like well, I SUPPOSE we could try and get an old freezer out the paper and have it on the decking as there are some plugs there... That would mean I could fulltime raw feed him if she doesn't change her mind and he gets on with it :thumbup: Anyone who has anything to say please feel free any input whatsoever is very welcome! Here are Rupert's droopy eyes, he is like this from when he gets up, all through the middle of the day and the evening right now, its not normal is it?