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A very odd diagnosis - PLEASE HELP

Discussion in 'Dog Health and Nutrition' started by Clare Mayhew, Mar 16, 2021.


  1. Clare Mayhew

    Clare Mayhew PetForums Newbie

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    I am looking to see if anyone can shed anymore light or possible thoughts on a recent diagnosis of my dog....

    I have a 2.5 year old Cavapoo. 4 months ago we noticed he started swallowing quite a-lot and it sounded like his mouth was quite wet constantly (no visible drooling). He wakes in the night and does it most of the day. This is also accompanied by excessive yawning/jaw stretching and just general restlessness. Doing odd things like asking to go outside and just sleeping out there, and for a dog thats attached to us at the hip, its odd! He also sometimes wakes in the night or from a nap and will pant? He is totally himself on walks and when he sees a ball - but other than that he is very lethargic and almost depressed? 2 visits to my vet, they were useless and found nothing. I changed vet and she found he had ever so slight gingivitis of his back tooth and swollen salivary glands. She said the next step is sedation and we can take a good look - so this is what we did. She cleaned all his teeth and said the back tooth wasnt too bad, the gum should sit nicely back down. However, she said the left salivary gland is swollen and it is something she has not really come across before. She said it is either a disorder to do with excitment (sialadenosis????) or calcium deposits within the gland - Sialolithiasis??? I cannot find any information on this. He has started Epihphen for the first potential issue and if its still there then he will need surgery. I am so worried that his symptoms arent to do with this swelling? or what an earth are these 2 conditions?!?
     
  2. Lurcherlad

    Lurcherlad PetForums VIP

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    I don’t really have any answers but if he has a swelling in the salivary gland it’s likely to be causing him some irritation or discomfort in that area - hence the behaviours.

    Could the gland be infected, which might affect him when he’s not busy or active .... the lethargy and depression?

    Maybe ask if it’s worth a course of antibiotics before considering surgery?
     
  3. Clare Mayhew

    Clare Mayhew PetForums Newbie

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    Before the sedation she thought maybe an infection or mucoule? But it appears it is not that. I just had putting a dog through such stress.
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    Can I suggest that we may be looking at say a medical issue and one caused by him being of the male sex.. Waking in the night, pacing restlessness etc could very much occur due to a bitch in heat plus the panting I know I owned one who woke me whined, preferred to be outside. I did think medical or ghost of course being sceptic was hard to justify

    Then I moved and I could pin point the incidents as every 6 months... It just so happened that my neighbour mentioned her dog was in season it twigged. I knew when her dog passed away because it nothing happened in the normal months for reaccurance.

    I will say, in the previous house I never knew where the bitches in heat lived but there were many houses a sniff away for a dog so to speak.

    Often people dismiss this behaviour as something else, but honestly he was awful till old age for bitches in heat. Even my own dogs

    Plus he was castrated. This doesn't always stop the urge so to speak.

    The medical issues, I would have thought with an enlarged salivary gland that there may be some infection or damage and hence ABs worth a shot as @Lurcherlad said. If its a worry and you are insured, might be best to see if you can get a referral to a soft tissue specialist. They are more likely to have come across this. My dog had a damaged salivary gland and would have been referred to one if it hadn't healed on its own

    Disclaimer to say, I say insured to most people, as many people don't have the finance without insurance. Especially in a pandemic. Times are tough and it's with no judgement. I have insurance for that very reason.

    Oh and as a side note @Clare Mayhew I know the thread is closed but how lovely for you to have maybe solved a case of what condition a dog long ago may have had.
     
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  5. Clare Mayhew

    Clare Mayhew PetForums Newbie

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    Very interesting thought on the bitches in heat. But that doesn't really explain the constant swallowing and yawning?

    It's one of those super frustrating things when you know something is up with your dog and hes doing a collection of 'not usual' behaviours.

    I was so relieved when the vet found a potential problem under sedation but to hear how rare it is - i am now totally uneasy as to whether it even is that!

    Aww well if I can help someone else then its only a bonus!
     
  6. lullabydream

    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    I can see where she's coming from with the behaviour diagnosis though. Sort of something sparking something in his brain to yawn and swallow because in a similiar way antidepressants often have the side effect jaw clenching and it's a killer of you get it. Obviously to humans.

    Swallowing and yawning though, I mean you could be forgiven at times when I have cuddled my lurcher with the amount of dog she's 'sharing' that I must be a dog but I am definitely human. What I will say is I have had a blocked saliva gland. It was rather uncomfortable to say the least and I can remember sort of constantly trying to like move my jaw to unblock or just get it in a better position. Maybe we are over think it. We know it's enlarged one on the left side. If you Google dogs salivary glands, it's kind of no wonder why he's yawning or swallowing. It's probably uncomfortable.
     
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  7. Clare Mayhew

    Clare Mayhew PetForums Newbie

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    Yes you are more than likely right. Just believe in the diagnosis and get the surgery booked in!

    You can see he is bothered in the mouth area so it does make sense!
     
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