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Discussion in 'Dog Health and Nutrition' started by LauraJayne, Jun 7, 2010.


  1. LauraJayne

    LauraJayne PetForums Member

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    Hello everyone! :)

    Quite worried about my dog so joined in the hope that you can help me!!

    My lovely dog is called Jack, hes around 16/17 human years (we are unsure as he was tied to our doorstep as a puppy and the vet just gave us an estimate of his age) he is a mongrel.. cross Jack Russell/Collie with a bit of Lab in him. But he's GORGEOUS!

    He is really well behaved, great around kids and is a total joy!! However; recently he has taken to peeing around the house, well only the landing and stairs, which is the only carpeted area. (and also where he sleeps during the night or when everyone is upstairs, he also lies on the stairs/landing when he is home alone, as he waits on the stairs which is by the front door for everyone coming home)
    We put this peeing down to old age and thought he just couldn't hold it in any more as it is usually through the night that this happens (although he is walked late at night, and let into our garden last thing, and first thing, before an early morning walk.. including regular walks throughout the day!!)

    However; it happened the other day, while everyone was out (again we assumed he must have been desperate as the house was empty most of the day) yet today my dad has just caught him on the stairs doing a pee and when my dog saw him, he did not stop. Dad shouted at him and put him in the garden, where he just wandered around showing no remorse at all. Whereas when he was younger and had accidents, you knew before you spotted it because he always had his tail between his legs and his head bowed down!

    What could be wrong with him? do you think we should take him to the vet? and if so, how much would this cost?? my parents are a bit short of money atm and obviously I want him to be ok, so I would pay, but as a student.. I'm not in the best place financially myself!!

    Sorry I've went on, please help!! thanks x
     
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    Hello Laurajayne,
    You little fella sounds a real character.Its always hard when they begin to reach old age.I would get a vet to check him over,it could be a urine/bladder infection.If he gets the all clear from the vet,you may need to take steps to have him in a smaller area,uncarpeted,when you arent around to watch him.Go back to letting him out more often,so he has more opportunity to empty his bladder.
    Im not sure what area you are in,but in cornwall ,we have something called the animal hospital,which do concessions for OAPS and those on low incomes etc.So have a look around your area,you may have something similar.Maybe if you state the area you are in,someone can point you in the right direction.
    Some vets may let you spread the costs too,so its worth asking your vet.:)
    Hope you get it sorted x
     
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    as bearpaw says, it would really be best to have a thorough vet check for your old boy as it could be something simple.

    but either way, a bladder infection or old age, he may not be able to hold it - if he has to go, he has to go - so whether someone is watching him or not, when the urge to pee comes, he may just have to go there and then.

    dogs also dont understand right and wrong in the same way we do - so shouting at him would just make him scared and more likely not to hold it if he had a weak bladder anyway!

    when he was a pup, if you used to shout at him if he went for a wee in the house, he may put his tail down and bow his head etc, but this would be because he was anxious he had upset you - dogs do not feel guilt and are not able to link incidents in the past - hence why your dog would show 'no remorse' as you say.

    it would also be good to clean the carpet where he may have been thoroughly with something meant to remove pet wee odours etc, as a dogs nose is so much more sensitive than ours, so you could be thinking it is thoroughly clean, but to your dog, he may still be able to smell the urine and it would encourage him to go in the same spot.

    get your boy checked out at the vets and see what the next course of action is - but in the mean time, confinement to maybe a kitchen or utility room with easy-clean surface (rather than carpet) would be best, or at the least I would try and keep him off the carpeted area that he seems to be going on.
     
  4. LauraJayne

    LauraJayne PetForums Member

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    Hehe he is a TOTAL character! Thanks!!!
    I'm from Tyne and Wear!!

    I don't think we will be entitled to things as my parents earn what many things regard a good income as they were just over the margins to me and my brother to be entitlement to things such as student EMA, etc, just they are only paid 5weekly and have large outgoings with the mortgage etc! so at some times in the month and year, things get tricky!!

    but thanks for you help, I didn't know some vets spread the cost! I hope my little man is ok xx
     
  5. LauraJayne

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    hehe thanks for your replies!! I've cleaned the carpet really well with specialist products, he never pees on the same step twice lol, he seems to be working his way down the stairs haha!!

    would you suggest locking him in the kitchen when we are out and in bed? as I'm scared his may make him worse because whenever we go on holiday our cousin who he has always known comes to stay with him, but he has many accidents during this time due to separation from us and always has. do you think we should just persevere?
     
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    Try the vet first hun.if its an infection,it may clear up with antibiotics,but only the vet can tell you this.Have a phone around and see how much a consultation will cost(then add about 10.00 on for anitbiotics,this will give you a rough idea of the first visit cost).
     
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    yep agree - tackle the vets first to see what you are dealing with :)

    you know your dog so if you think he would worry about being separated then putting him in a new area suddenly would probably not be best.

    let us know how it goes at the vets :)
     
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    The vet i am using at the moment,has free leaflets with a dipstick thingy tester for diabetis,so maybe if you are near a companion care vet(in a pets at home) pick one up,and when you visit your vet you can take the result with you.But please do see the vet first,its the only way to get a diagnosis,if there is one.
     
  10. LauraJayne

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    Thanks all!! Got an appointment for Thursday - it's the only time off my dads got so i'll keep you informed!!

    All was dry last night, so keeping my fingers crossed!! x
     
  11. rona

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    Make sure you take a wee sample with you :D
     
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    Let us know how you get on x
     
  13. LauraJayne

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    Thanks for all your messages and concern!!

    Dad brought him back from vets around an hour ago! They said he seems to have some kidney failure and an irregular heart murmur! they gave him 2 types of tablets to have half of each 2times a day half an hour before food! They also took blood tests and weve just gotten his results back on the phone...

    basically, his kidneys and heart have both completely had it! they said its complete kidney failure and hes anaemic! they have asked us to go back and get another tablet! but they said that these pills will just keep him alive abit longer! he seems to be in no pain so we just keep him on these pills until he starts to suffer and then we will have to put him to sleep!

    I'm totally distraught.

    p.s bill came to £110 but will be going up now he has another set of tablets.
     
  14. rona

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    So sorry to hear this :(
    Lets hope he stays comfortable for a while yet
     
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    thanks ='(
     
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    Oh, i forgot, and slight fluid on his lungs too!
     
  17. rona

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    He's in a bad way isn't he, poor little mite, the fluid is probably because of the heart condition
     
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    yeah! everyone is saying hes done really well because until now his only problem has been abit of wet eczema and hes almost 16!

    but it doesn't hurt any less. Vet said he doesn't seem to be in any discomfort at all and looks real fit and healthy still jumping around and looking happy and stuff so the days when he is not 100% the tablets will be making him feel better.

    but just until he starts to seem in discomfort then it will be time for him to go.

    im so upset by it all.
     
  19. rona

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    I'm not surprised, 16 years is a long time to have a friend and then have to say goodbye :(
    Most of us here know exactly what you are going through and will be hear to listen
     
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    Hun

    I am so sorry to hear what you are going through. Fingers crossed the tablets will soon kick in and start to help him.

    Regarding where he is peeing its a good idea to make sure it is washed with something that gets rid of the scent. A lot of cleaners just enhance it and will encourage him to wee there (although I no you say he is doing it in different places)......Biological washing powder is good.

    Vets are so epensive and it soon mounts up especially where more medication is needed. Have you asked about a payment plan?? A lot of vets do it especially in this current finacial climate.

    I wish you and your boy all the best and hope that he starts to improve over the next few days.

    Keep us updated Hun

    xx
     
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