I have just heard elsewhere that someone as just paid 1500 pounds for a Liver pup from a breeder who breeds just for colour and will breed off dog/bitch no matter what the results of any health tests are. When will people learn, where you get one defect/mutation you will get others. First will be dogs name, then colour it produced then defect implicated with: Vello zu den Sieben-Faulen - white - dwarfism Canto von der Wienerau (grson of above) - blue - Heamophillia, crytorchidism, missing teeth Uran v Wildsteiger Land - blue - dwarfism, although he produced good hips his sons did not Avon Prince of Alumvale - white - Epilepsy, cryptorchidism, linked to extreme angulation and loose hocks Gerolf of Brittas - white - weak backs, colour paling, missing teeth, cryptorchidism Allegro of Seacroft - white - Epilepsy Barry v Status Quo - blue - Epilepsy Rosehurst Chris - blue - dwarfism implicated in epilepsy Delridge Erhard - liver - Epilepsy Druidswood Consort - blue - Epilepsy Marko v Cellerland - liver - dwarfism The problem is the majority of those that breed for non standard colour have done incestuous breedings to achieve these colours and will breed of known affected dogs that have Epilepsy, Canine Dilution Alopecia etc just to keep producing these colours Quadrille of Eveley (1964-68), his son Hendrawens Charade of Charavigne (1966-69) and his son Eclipse of Eveley (b1967) all produced fitters and Eclipse had a sister which fitted. Quadrille was inbred 4.5.5/5.4.4. on Avon Prince of Alumvale (1948-47). Charade was inbred 3/2 on Ludwig of Charavigne and had 8 lines to Avon Prince Eclipse was inbred 18.104.22.168.22.214.171.124/6.5.5. on Avon Prince so instead of diluting they concentrated the affects.