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2 month old pregnant. ..how could this possibly happen?

Discussion in 'Cat Breeding' started by aandalon, May 5, 2010.


  1. aandalon

    aandalon PetForums Newbie

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    Hey All,

    Just joined this forum looking for a piece of advice/explanation on this.

    First, some background:

    I've got 5 cats at home. 4 females and a year old male. All females are spayed save for one: a 2-month old kitten that I found in a garbage bin nearby a month back (she was around 3 weeks then). I felt sorry for the poor thing and brought it back home. She had no issues getting along with the other cats, especially got along with Kika, a 5 year old female that looked down to Luna (the kitten) as though she were her mother. That made me so relieved and happy -thought no complications would lay for me ahead -at least not in a near future.

    A week passed by normally at home and then I started noticing a strange -yet familiar- behaviour in Luna. I took her to the vet thinking it could be worms or some kind of parasites (because of all the rubbing up against me/furniture etc). Because of her age at that time (around 4/5 weeks, I remember I was still bottle-feeding her that week, for heavens' sake!), the vet didn't even bother to check any further and just started her on deworm medication. Needless to say, the strange behaviour didn't go away.. went back to the vet and this time he tried flea powder .. .2 more days and still nothing .. .the furry thing would do nothing but meow meow meow REALLY loud all the time and rub up against anything coming across her. Then, out of the blue, she calmed down as if nothing had ever happened.

    Afterwards, she started to turn really lethargic, which is quite strange for a kitten. She would do nothing all day but sleep and eat. I grew concerned that she could have a serious health issue so I made an appointment, this time to another vet, and told him the whole story. He asked lots of questions, then checked her up carefully, ran some tests and asked me to be back in a couple hours. When I was back, he again started asking endless questions, one of them being if I was aware of any contact with a male cat. Then it hit me! I was like: 'wait a minute, you can't be saying. ..' I swear he had the most puzzled look on his face, then asked me if I was ready for the diagnosis: pregnancy. I was in denial: Never, ever would I have thought that a 2 month old kitten could get pregnant. Neither could the vet. I can tell by the look in his face.

    He recommended to have Luna go through the pregnancy, as operating on a small kitten (she's 2 months and looks even less!) could be very dangerous: he said that even though going through the pregnancy is quite risky, at least this way she will have more time to grow 'till delivery. Upon learning this, I'm now feeding her 5 times a day to help her gain weight faster.

    I spayed the rest of my girls starting at 3 months old, one of them had to wait till she was 6 months old because she was too skinny/tiny for the operation ...and now I have a 2-month old mommy to be. I feel like this can't really be happening.

    Anyone been through the same or a similar situation? Whats the best thing to do? Should I get another vet's advice? how did you proceed?

    Advice is really appreciated. Thank you!
     
  2. colliemerles

    colliemerles PetForums VIP

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    hello and welcome to the forum, i must say i have never heard of a kitten so young getting pregnant, i dont understand how the vet didnt decide to spay her now, couldnt giving birth to kittens kill her as shes so young,???? :confused:.:confused:
     
  3. Honeybunch

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    Hi there what a shock for you. I have known of cats going into heat as young as 4 months but never that young! I would've thought that having kittens at that young age when the cat is still a kitten itself would actually be more dangerous than getting her spayed now. A kitten giving birth at that young age could possibly die.Im not an expert but I have known of cats being spayed from as young as 8 weeks so if I was you I would perhaps ask the opinion of another vet. Whatever happens I hope Luna will be ok x
     
  4. lizward

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    Sorry but I don't think this is even possible. Apart from anything else I don't see that an adult male could possible mate with anything that small.

    Liz
     
  5. Milly22

    Milly22 PetForums VIP

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    No I cannot see it either.

    Are you sure of the age ? It's not possible. I have had kittens here at 16 weeks and they cannot do it.
     
  6. billyboysmammy

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    i cant see that that is possible. If this is not some hoax troll... then this is my reply.

    As for the advice on a spey.... it is possible and even common to early spey, obviously your vet doesnt have the expertise. I personally would have her speyed, but by a vet experienced in anaesthesia in neonates.

    The risks of a required c-section, uterine rupture etc would vastly outweigh the risks of the spey in this care. Each of her kittens would be far too big to fit down her immature birth canal.

    Do you have any photos of your girl? has she had an ultrasound? can you post pics of the accompanying ultrasound?


    A girl calling at 4-5 weeks, before weaning would indicate an endocrine, ovary or other tumour causing a homone imbalance.
     
  7. lizward

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    It would certainly have to be a hormonal problem but I suspect this is a troll. I can't see any way my boy could physically mate with my 9 week old kittens, let alone anything younger!

    Liz
     
  8. Taylorbaby

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    Just echo said by lizward

    Cant see it being possible, any vet woul say spay her surely? she would die if she gave birth???
     
  9. The Twins

    The Twins PetForums Senior

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    Is it possible that the kitten in question, could be older than 8 weeks old?? How do you know, OP, if the kitten is this age? If it was an abandoned kitten, then chances are it could be older than you think but look small due to undernourishment etc...

    BUT I suspect this isnt genuine... and am sure any vet would early neuter/spay - 8 weeks isnt too young, i have heard of vets that will do it at this age, and it def outweighs the risk of pregnancy in one so young.

    And also if all yours are fixed, how did the kitty get pregnant in the first place or was it before you found her? In which case she'd have had to have been even younger than 8 weeks at the time of conception which is impossible...
     
  10. Alansw8

    Alansw8 PetForums Senior

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    Reading into this post, they said they got the kitten around 3 weeks of age? and she is now around 8 weeks old? so they must have an entire boy around the house but i stil fail to see how a kitten a baby at that can be or able to fall pregnant!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad:
     
  11. becbec31

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    i agree think someone may be playing a trick on us all here. If i had an 8 week old kitten who the vet said was pregnant id ask to see another vet. I would be more concerned the swellings were cysts tumours or something. I cant see how any male old enough to have viable sperm could mate with something so teeny tiny and that her body would allow her to become pregnant.

    Ummmmm.....................
     
  12. Honeybunch

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    Im new on here so don't understand what you mean by a troll?! Is this all just someone trying to wind people up then? I didnt realise that happened on these forums. :confused:
     
  13. aandalon

    aandalon PetForums Newbie

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    Sadly for all (all of you, me and especially the kitten) this isn't a hoax. Hard to believe? Surely. I also *still* cannot believe this, which is why I'm getting the advice from another vet shortly.

    To *The Twins*: you got a point. I don't know exactly how old she really is, but she sure isn't 3 months yet. The vet's estimate is around 10 weeks, give or take, and it makes perfect sense 'cause when I got her she was TINY, so small she fit in my hand sitting down and I bottle-fed her that week.

    I'm also not comfortable with the decision of letting the kitten give birth so I'll take an appointment to another vet on friday. When I called her explaining the problem, she said she would discard lots of thing first, like an hormonal imbalance or a tumour releasing hormones that's making the kitten behave like that. But, she also said that although pregnancies that early occurr once in millions, it can happen if she already has a metabolic alteration. So let's see what happens then. I really hope she is not pregnant, but the other possibilities don't sound much better either. Guess I'll just pray for Luna to have the best possible luck.
     
  14. aandalon

    aandalon PetForums Newbie

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    Also, I said the females are spayed. The boy isn't. Before Luna, he was the most recent addition to the 'family' and with all of the girls already spayed, I didn't think it necessary to have him neutered.
     
  15. Clare7435

    Clare7435 PetForums VIP

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    It's nessisery to have him neuterd to stop any unwantd kittens outside the home unwated kittens are born every day from stray cats too.
    I would guess that your cat is older but under nourished it isnt possible for an 8 week old cat to be pregnant at all.
    clare xx
     
  16. bluechip

    bluechip PetForums Senior

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    you need to get your boy done as he will go looking for girls and right now i have three strays in my garden all have not had the op and all looking for girls but my girls don't go out so no chance of getting them.
     
  17. Waterlily

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    yeah he needs a neuter if he is allowed outside, or he will be impregnating every cat in the area :rolleyes:
    I also suspect your kitten is older and maybe a runt and severely malnourished :( I allso would be going to a vet that actually knows about cats ;)
     
  18. Clare7435

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    I'll second that.....your vet should have also prformed an ulrasound .......I would say that A....you have a cat who is a lot older than she looks who is pregnant or B ...a kitten who is full of worms and severely undernourished poss the runt of the litter......a GOOD vet should tell you which xx
     
  19. Shamen

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    how shocking i agree with all the advice given, allowing her to give birth seems a very dangerous thing to do in such a tiny little mite so im very pleased you're getting a second opinion on that, plus you really ought to get your boy done even if he is an indoor cat if he got out even for a short time he could mate all the cats in the neighbourhood.
     
  20. lizward

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    How much does this kitten weigh?

    Liz
     
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