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12-14 day old German Shepherd. Should I keep it? Is it too much work?

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by shamans, Nov 26, 2012.


  1. shamans

    shamans PetForums Junior

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    Hello everyone, to make this brief, there is a person who is leaving the country and he's selling his 14 day German Shepherd on an urgent basis. He's also selling it very cheap which I admit is a selling point for me because you don't get GSD's in that price.


    But the dog is really young and I've never brought up a puppy less than 2 months. I'm asking you guys, is it possible for me to take care of it? Should I get this puppy? I asked some people how difficult it would be and they said you'd have to feed it every 4 hours make it learn how to pee keep it warm ect ect.


    So please, my question from you guys is-What should you do/expect from a 12 day GSD. Keep in mind the dog will die if I don't get it most probably.

    Oh and I forgot to mention I'm a busy university student but I do have time from 4 pm to 10 pm and I do have slaves (servents) in my house to help me.
     
  2. Booties

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    Can I just ask for one tiny detail?
    Why on Earth does this person own a single, 14-day-old GS puppy?
    Or does he also own the mother and the rest of the litter, and I've just read it wrong? :p

    In any case, if you can't dedicate the time to it (it will need almost constant care), even if it survives healthily it can develop severe mental issues...
    If push comes to shove, I would contact a local centre, they may be able to do something for the poor thing.

    There are sites about how to raise an orphaned pup, but I would DEFINITELY contact a vet for advice if you choose to do so;
    http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+2108&aid=863 for example.
     
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  3. Dober

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    Call me a cynic, but it sounds to me like they've got a pup left out of their litter which hasn’t yet sold and are trying to get rid of it with excuses. I wouldn’t give this person a single penny (Or rupee!) for the pup. Perhaps you could suggest a local rescue organisation (I'm not sure how good they are over there?), or see if the vet would help the pup?

    Cheap is not a good motivation to buy a puppy in my opinion, what you save on the initial purchase price of the puppy you will probably end up spending much more in vet bills now in the future than you would from buying from a reputable breeder in the first place. I would say if you dont want to spend the money on a reputable pup, rescue a pup through a rescue organisation, then you're not just helping the pup you take home but dogs still in the rescue too :)

    I would say if you do want a puppy, you should wait until you have more time to dedicate. Puppies need a lot of work!
     
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  4. newfiesmum

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    We all want to know - why has he got a single two week old puppy? It should not even be away from its mother till it is 8 weeks old. If I were you I would phone GSD rescue and ask their advice. I know you are not in the UK, but you can still phone.

    By the way, a slave is a person who is owned by another person, a servant is someone who is paid to do a job. Very important that you get the distinction.

    As to the pup, if you have to ask if you will be able to look after it, then no you won't.
     
  5. Julesky

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    Like all the others have said it should be with mum at that age?

    Also your thread is called 'should I keep it'

    Have you already bought it?

    The text of your post suggests not, but your title suggests you have.

    You have stated price is a big factor, why don't you go to a rescue then?

    You also said the pup will probably die if you don't take it- eek did the seller say that to you?

    I would run far, far away from this idea- it doesn't sound at all good to me... suddenly having to leave the country, pup is a baby with no mum?, will maybe dies if you don't take it?

    If the seller was really worried about puppy and genuinely had to leave the country one would assume they would have exhausted all avenues to get their puppy (normally not too hard to get a puppy into rescue?) into care where it would be guaranteed to be looked after.

    The fact they are looking for money and a quick sale leads me to cynically suggest there is more to this than meets the eye. Unfirtunately for that puppy I couldn't buy it as imo (please add more detail if i'm way wrong here) i'd be perpetuating a trade that is strongly disagree with.

    Walk away.
     
  6. JAChihuahua

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    About | PAWS

    A rescue in pakistan who may be able to help.

    I have a family member currently teaching english in pakistan, and some of the stories about cruelty and abuse are horrific. Equally good animal care and education is thin on the ground, so a case like this does not surprise me at all.

    your "friend" has either been given/bought this pup from an unscrupulous breeder, OR has bred the pup himself. It may be the last in a litter of sickly pups which have not survived (quite possibly not GSD's and possibly sickly due to the neglect of the dams needs).

    Try contacting the rescue who I hope will either help you with the information you need in order to properly care for this pup, or will offer to raise him for you with a donation to the rescue. If you dont think your up for up to 2h feeds and toileting, if you dont think you will be able to give this pup the veterinary care it requires, and if you arent sure you can socialise this puppy properly then please dont take it on. If you are concerned it will die from neglect, then I would rather you took it to the vet to be PTS than suffer a long drawn out death (or worse live to be abused).
     
  7. JAChihuahua

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    also google animal care association pakistan - they have a facebook page.
     
  8. shamans

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    Interesting replies.


    To answer some threads, no I haven't bought this puppy yet and it's no friend. It's an advertisement I've seen.

    Apart from the obvious, I am suspecting that this might not even be a German Shepherd. I will have to call this guy and ask questions

    What questions should I ask him?


    EDIT: I know I sound like a person who has no information on how to buy/treat animals but guys, over here there really aren't "reputeble" breeders commonly available and you have to look at the dog yourself. It's hard to explain but things here are a little different and dirtier than the west. Dogs are treated like "property" and ofcourse I do not treat dogs in that way :)
     
  9. Nonnie

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    Surely at that age it will need to be looked after 24/7?

    Going on what you have written, it doesnt sound like you have time for a dog at all, let alone whats little more than an orphaned puppy.
     
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    Aside from the obvious 'moral' dilemma of buying a 14 day old puppy, you must also know that if you buy this puppy this young, it's probably going to die on you. It can't even eat on it's own yet, it needs it's mother. :mad:

    Didn't you already own a puppy that died? Surely you don't want to go through the same heartbreak again?
     
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    A puppy that age will require 24/7 care.
     
  12. cheekyscrip

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    absolutely..I had to adopt 5 week old puppy (mother refused to breastfeed them anymore...owners were working full time)and it still needed lots of attention..and could only be left alone for a short time (up to two hours if I had to go out!)....
    2 week old needs vet at hand and round the clock care...
     
  13. Quinzell

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    Over here those kind of worded adverts are quite commonly used by puppy farmers, or people looking to move stolen animals on quickly. Rarely are they 100% truthful.

    Don't respond to the advert or you could really regret it later on.
     
  14. newfiesmum

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    To be honest I don't think you should be thinking about a puppy at all until you have the time for it. You have only just lost one

    http://www.petforums.co.uk/dog-chat/262926-rip-biscuit.html

    you will definitely lose this one. It is too young to be away from its mother and a pup that age needs someone with lots of experience and the same person 24/7 not passed around servants who don't really care about it.

    If it were in the UK I would be passing the info on to GSD rescue to see if they would buy it, but where you are I doubt you have that option. Someone did give you a link to a rescue in Pakistan though, so phone them, pass on the details. They may be in a position to help this poor dog.
     
  15. BoredomBusters

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    Is the days a typo and it should be weeks??

    If it's days, don't touch it. I would never have a hand reared puppy if I had a choice, they learn so much from their mothers and siblings that as humans we can't teach, and often won't teach as we're too sft hearted for the cute puppies.
     
  16. JAChihuahua

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    This has been playing on my mind all morning.

    I'm sure noone is going to agree with me here, but taking into account the country of origin, the enormous numbers of dogs being shot on the streets (800+ a week in Karachi according to my SIL), the amount of endemic animal abuse, the culture which deems dogs as unpure, widespread dog fighting, the lack of welfare laws, the lack of shelters and rescues, and the huge implications of handrearing a puppy.

    I would find out if I could rescue the pup without handing over any cash and have the poor thing put to sleep.
     
  17. shamans

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    I've talked to the guy on phone and I'm not buying it. He didn't sound right. He said he still had the mother dog ect

    He said he had some cousins or distant relatives who'll be picking up the dog tomorrow.

    So yeah... I don't really want much to do with it. I'm still waiting for the right puppy, most probably a Rottweiler as I want a dog which is intelligent, active and majestic looking




    Hey, I appreciate your input but statements like "you will definitely lose this one" and "you have only just lost one" makes no sense.

    A puppy can die because of many reasons and some of them are natural infections which can occur anytime so it is not that I am incapable of handling puppies.

    If your sentence meant I have just lost one and I should respect his death in the sense widows should respect their departed husbands I don't know what to say.
     
  18. Booties

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    I think she meant;
    You've only just been through the pain of losing a dog, and a puppy that young is very very likely to die... So maybe you would want to avoid the pain of seeing another beloved dog die.
    Don't think she meant anything bad by it.

    Glad you decided not to take the puppy though.

    Good luck finding the right one for you :)
     
  19. newfiesmum

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    Certainly no reflection on you, I just meant that a puppy that young is not going to survive without experienced 24 hour per day care, which you cannot give it. I didn't mean that you had been negligent with your other pup, just that you don't want to risk that heartache again and so soon. Sorry if I worded it badly.

    I know what it is like to lose a young dog and I could not bear to go through it again.

    Just wait till you have more time and more money, so you will not influenced by the cheaper price. If it seems too good to be true, it usually is.
     
  20. shamans

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    Okay. Thanks for making the post clearer. I think I misread it. Really sorry. Despite being fluent in English it still isn't my first language and subconsciously I may translate some words to my native Pashto which can distort the meanings of some words. So again sorry for the reaction.
     
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