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#1 ·
What do you look for in potential slaves?

(I am a newbie to breeding by the way, had a litter etc... but a newbie hence all the questions :p)

Do you / would you sell kittens on the active register?
 
#3 ·
Absolutely we sell kittens on the active register. But they have to be of a certain standard.

All of the kittens we breed are of excellent type - I've bought in the mums and dads to be sure of it - their pattern is the only thing that I worry about now.

You can get some coats with some flaws -they're not as clear as they should be, have multiple rib barring, etc - these will go as pets. There are then the kittens that have a coat flaw (rib barring (striping down the ribs)), and they can either go as pets, or breeders to an experienced breeder, or to the novice breeder that doesn't have the money to buy a show breeder. Flaws are always pointed out by us. Then there's the show cats - the ones that you know are going to be terrific from the day they are born. If we don't keep them, they go to breeders that are looking for an extra special cat to show as well as to breed from.

For owners we look for people that understand why we have an indoor policy, are gooey over the kittens and are generally 'nice people'. Generally our kitten buyers are well-off families, or young couples in a professional occupation. If people want breeding cats we spend a good long time talking to them - an hour or two. We explain the pitfalls and don't gloss over the things that can go wrong with Bengals. We also find out what they are trying to achieve to see if we can help, or which kitten would be best for them. Lastly we explain our rehoming policy (that we take kittens back if they can no longer cope with them) and our support policy. We expect people that we sell breeding cats to, to uphold the same principles as we do, and we would expect to mentor them (assuming they're novice breeders).
 
#4 ·
I would - in fact I've no recollection of ever selling a kitten on the non-active, though I may have done if there was some reason to such as a flaw that might be hereditary. The gene pools are narrow enough as it is. If people are going to breed from my cats I'd rather they bred registered kittens.

In practice the overwhelming majority went to pet homes - even though I was prepared to let Burmese boys go on the active register and those are like gold dust, to the best of my knowledge only one boy was ever bred from. It is a pity because now, eight years after my cattery wipeout, I would love to find a stud somewhere that was a close descendant of one of my cats, but the line seems to have been completely wiped out.

Some stud owners make it a condition that all males, or even all kittens, go on the non-active register. I would try to avoid using such a stud. If I had to use such a stud then obviously I would also have to keep to the agreement.

Liz
 
#9 ·
Absolutely we sell kittens on the active register. But they have to be of a certain standard.

All of the kittens we breed are of excellent type - I've bought in the mums and dads to be sure of it - their pattern is the only thing that I worry about now.

You can get some coats with some flaws -they're not as clear as they should be, have multiple rib barring, etc - these will go as pets. There are then the kittens that have a coat flaw (rib barring (striping down the ribs)), and they can either go as pets, or breeders to an experienced breeder, or to the novice breeder that doesn't have the money to buy a show breeder. Flaws are always pointed out by us. Then there's the show cats - the ones that you know are going to be terrific from the day they are born. If we don't keep them, they go to breeders that are looking for an extra special cat to show as well as to breed from.

For owners we look for people that understand why we have an indoor policy, are gooey over the kittens and are generally 'nice people'. Generally our kitten buyers are well-off families, or young couples in a professional occupation. If people want breeding cats we spend a good long time talking to them - an hour or two. We explain the pitfalls and don't gloss over the things that can go wrong with Bengals. We also find out what they are trying to achieve to see if we can help, or which kitten would be best for them. Lastly we explain our rehoming policy (that we take kittens back if they can no longer cope with them) and our support policy. We expect people that we sell breeding cats to, to uphold the same principles as we do, and we would expect to mentor them (assuming they're novice breeders).
I go on exactly the same lines as Nicola with this, I have a really good talk with anyone wanting to go into breeding and make sure they are doing it for all the right reasons. I am not someone who refuses to sell a pedigree cat for breeding, but willing to help and advise anyone just starting out. After all, I was in that position once myself ;););)
 
#17 ·
We have the same policy, we would only sell an active Queen or Stud to someone who we had total respect for, and a well established trust with.

Even some of the well know breeders have a questionable policy.

We are happy to mentor newbies into the breed but they must be willing to learn, understand our ways and why we do things our way.

At the end of the day it all comes down to one thing .... trust.
 
#18 ·
We have the same policy, we would only sell an active Queen or Stud to someone who we had total respect for, and a well established trust with.

Even some of the well know breeders have a questionable policy.

We are happy to mentor newbies into the breed but they must be willing to learn, understand our ways and why we do things our way.

At the end of the day it all comes down to one thing .... trust.
Well said, start off small & grow with experience:)
 
#20 ·
here we go again :rolleyes:

not allowed an opinion in Nicola's world ......

For the record .... we never advertise our kittens in local papers ....

FG came to us for a pet kitten, but with an interest in breeding later when he had enough knowledge of the breed and the life of a breeder .... he took Flthy as a pet but with the potential to be a Queen if/when he thought and we thought he was ready .......
and with showing in mind, which she walked pretty much everytime....
 
#26 ·
I thought Filthy got his cat from you after replying to an ad in a local paper? :confused:

Hi Donna. Hi Madeline.
oh dear.
i wouldn't have thought this was the best place to make personal comments & assumptions. i've seen this particular poster get very aggressive & personal with several posters recently in this forum & it's actually held me off replying to some otherwise very informative threads for fear of being attacked because my opinion may not have agreed with this particular person's.
i read the sticky at the top of the cat chat forum & it distinctly says:-

"Intelligent and courteous posts are welcome and encouraged. Pointless bickering is not tolerated. If you disagree with any posted information, post your alternative suggestion and let the matter drop. If someone tries to goad you into an argument, be the bigger person and find another thread to read and / or contribute to."

now forgive me if i'm wrong, but this is certainly not the first time in the past couple of weeks this person has tried to goad people into an argument. can we not try & stick to the topic being discussed & leave petty grievances behind?
 
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