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#1 ·
Hi everyone! I am new to this forum. I live in Alberta, Canada and am a cat-a-holic! I have 6 cats, they are my pampered babies. For the last two years I have been doing cat rescue (mainly local farm cats) and have successfully rehomed around 100 kittens. I foster a lot out and pay the expenses for them while in foster care. I have a large, insulated cat house and will be getting another one in a couple months. I use an oil heater and it keeps it very comfy for them - they have their own kitty paradise!

About a month ago I bought a couple Siamese kittens. Alaska is my seal point male and Keira is the lilac point female. When they are mature I plan to breed them. I have done plenty of research, particularly on Siamese and I understand they can be fertile quite early! So in another couple months I will have have to move one of them to the new house so there are no "accidents". They will always have company as my other kitties are all fixed.

I have attached a few pictures of my little darlings. I hope to be able to gain some advice and knowledge from this forum, particularly once I actually start breeding them. I am also very fortunate to have an awesome vet to work with and one I have a good rapport with.

I am going to spend some time doing some more browsing on the forum - looks like there is a wealth if information here! :)
 

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#78 ·
The TICA thais are old style siamese so are registered as siamese with GCCF as long as their pedigrees conform to the GCCF Siamese registration policy although the BAC has suggested the possibility of applying for a name change so they can be shown with GCCF. This is not really relevant to the current cats since they are in Canada and do not have pedigrees.

The Old Style Siamese cat club has some fascinating photos on their website. Historic Photograph Archive | Old Style Siamese Club
 
#80 ·
As you can also see on that website that some of the cats have longer hair like my kittens. That does not mean they are not purebred.
On this forum, any cat without a pedigree is a moggie. Changes depending where on the Internet you find yourself.

On the website yes, I see the long hair on the kittens and then when the are adults seems to shorten.
 
#81 · (Edited)
Never knew our tonks great great granddad Zachery Apollo was a siamese.
I knew Sup Gr Ch Zachary Apollo very well, and his owner. When I was breeding Orientals I used one of his sons, and one of his grandsons, for stud on my girls. I also used to board my cats with Doreen when I went away, as she wasn't too far from me when I lived in Central London.

Apollo almost lost his life at one point in his stud career. A Blue Point Siamese queen had come in to stud, and attacked him, badly injuring his penis. Vets' opinions were divided - some said PTS, one even suggested amputation, although that had a 50/50 chance of success.

Even before the days of the internet, the news spread like wildfire and one breeder in the USA contacted Doreen, suggesting using Hypercal ointment on it. So, with nothing to lose, Doreen applied the ointment every few hours night & day for several weeks. It healed so fast the vets were worried about adhesions!

So Apollo lived, and even went on to sire a couple more litters to very experienced and gentle girls, although he found it difficult as his todger had healed slightly crookedly. But he always refused Siamese girls, especially Blue Points!
 
#82 ·
On this forum, any cat without a pedigree is a moggie. Changes depending where on the Internet you find yourself.

On the website yes, I see the long hair on the kittens and then when the are adults seems to shorten.
Well, I doubt my kittens care what they are called! And it certainly doesn't make them any less wonderful or quality animals. I am very happy with them, and I am looking forward to seeing how they mature as they get older. It is scary how fast they grow - to bad kittens can't stay little for longer!
 
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#83 ·
It's not a 'moggy' just because it doesn't have papers and as for 'on this site' it is are you speaking for every single person on here because you are certainly not speaking for me.

Mum to a Bengal with papers!
 
#85 ·
I concur with the above. I think you've been very patient and your kittens are beautiful.

I paid £100 each for my two babies from someone who would be classed a BYB by a lot of these guys. mum's a bengal, dad's a somali. They are the most beautiful, well socialised, affectionate cats and in my head I thank the woman I got them from on a daily basis. She loves her cats and gave me my two, who I love also.

Well done on your rescue work by the way :)
 
#86 ·
It's not a 'moggy' just because it doesn't have papers and as for 'on this site' it is are you speaking for every single person on here because you are certainly not speaking for me.

Mum to a Bengal with papers!
No, that came across wrong. I am in the if it looks like a breed it is side of things! It annoys me to distraction when someone posts in here says what breed is my cat and they get told nothing but moggy.

I think the op's kittens,that are gorgeous by the way are siamese!
 
#87 ·
A cat with two siamese genes can be called a siamese. If the parents of both these kittens were all pointed cats, they are more 'pure' bred than many registered siamese show cats. ( The waters are muddied slightly by all the colourpoint breeds that have been developed from siamese but they tend to show completely different conformation from old style siamese.) When a recessive gene is expressed as in these kittens, any dominant colour genes in the background of the cat are no longer present.

Registration policies are fairly arbritary and subject to change (as is the Standard of Points) and people can choose not to register their kittens. Even those which are definitely pedigree are not always registered nowadays.

I think the assumption here is that unregistered cats are bred by back yard breeders. This may or may not be true and it is exactly the same with registered cats. I know of some appalling breeders who always register their kittens.

However, a siamese is only a pedigree cat if it has a pedigree.
 
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