can i just ask out of interest how much p@h charge for their tortoises?

I'm a P@H fan but I use it for different reasons.

They're not the cheapest but they are convenient.

I wouldn't trust the staff for advice any more than I'd ask a Tesco checkout person how to cook a luxury meal from the ingredients they sold me. That's no disrespect to the staff of either store but that's not in the hiring criteria.

Health questions? ask a vet.
Specific animal questions? ask someone who works with the animals not just someone who sells them.
Need dietary or set up info? Ask any combination of the above.
Want to browse a decent range of pet products from crates to fish food? That's where P@H comes in.

They do tortoises?! What the hell

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What is wrong with tortoise trust advice?
Sue
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I don't understand how any pet shop can be allowed to 'stock' animals ofany kind in all honesty, I remember seeing birds and chipmonks kept in less than satisfactory conditons in our p@h, but in any pet shop it is less than ideal to keep animals in my opinion, it's a place where people see them, think how cute they are an buy them on a whim with very little thought about it, I would much prefer to go to either a rescue centre or a breeder becase anyone who does that has at least thought about getting a new addition to the family enough to do something about it instead of seen one in passing and acted on the spare of the moment.
P@h really do need to make a few changes though I do agree.
Clarexx

nothing is wrong with it. the TT is fantastic when it comes to tortoises. the problem was P@H were giving out very wrong info about tortoises and claiming it came from the TT, when actually, the TT had nothing to do with it (in fact, they were very much against P@H selling tortoises)

Oh I see, I must have misunderstood your post
Sue
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