walking problems with a nervous dog

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  1. webmonkeyuk

    webmonkeyuk PetForums Junior

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    Jess my 4 year old border collie is really starting to have problems walking, she is very very nervous and any noise no matter how small will set her off pulling on the tip of her nails. She has always been funny with noise's but lately she is a lot worse, its got the the point now where she gets out the door and straight away pulls me back in the house refusing to go. I've also had to shorten my walks due to her strength when she gets spooked as it almost pulls my arm out.

    Watching her when she is walking its almost as though she is expecting noise's as she seems on edge all the time. I have asked at the vets about her and they did mention valerian and scullcap and a coller and plug in to use, was just wondering if anyone has tried these and had much luck or any thing else I could try.

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  2. Mumtomaddog

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    Hi...

    My rescue boy, max is very nervous. he patrols all the time round the house and he's a nightmare on walks tbh.

    I used the Adaptil plug in, and at first i thought it was great, now im not sure its working anymore but still keep one plugged in.

    I tried Nupafeed stressless but it gave him the runs, or so i thought, think in hindsight it might just have been a tummy bug. Haven't tried it again yet.

    Now we're on Zylkene and the Dorwest Valerian and Skullcap but ive only been using these for a few days so not seeing any difference really. I was informed by someone who uses them (the Dorwest) that they could take about 3 weeks before you see any effect.

    If its only walking that there's a prob, i would try the Adaptil collar?.. the plug in wouldnt hurt generally though anyway. I think anything's worth a try to be honest. Ive had Max for just under 3 months and he was treated terribly so has all sorts of issues so willing to try anything :eek:
     
  3. Fluffster

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    I've seen people on here recommend a Thundershirt, that could also be worn while walking. Perhaps worth a try?
     
  4. webmonkeyuk

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    I tried a thundershirt about 6 months back but it did very little for her she is fine in the house its just outside she dislikes. I think I will try one of the collars for her to start with, I'm not keen on druging her up but if it has to be done I guess it might be best for her
     
  5. Mumtomaddog

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    The Skullcap and Valerian are herbal.. and the Zylkene is a natural product derived from milk proteins

    The Adaptil is a Pheromone, that the mum would emit so really your dog wouldnt be drugged up on any of these.

    You can get the Adaptil quite cheaply online as well as the tablets...

    Some links to have a check for the cheapest prices..

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    Dorwest Scullcap and Valerian Tablets - From £9.29

    Zylkene Capsules | Zylkene Tablets for Cats and Dogs | Vet medic Pharmacy

    Have a look about and see what the cheapest prices are on either of these sites :)
     
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    May I ask what your reaction is when your collie starts to react/pulls on the lead, etc.?
     
  7. webmonkeyuk

    webmonkeyuk PetForums Junior

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    ive tried all sorts, from pulling her back to my side and saying in a firm tone NO! to making her sit down and trying to calm her using a soft reassuring voice, i even try not to walk past where something has set her off for a few days but once she gets it in her head thats it she gone, she can be very stubborn
     
  8. Twiggy

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    She's not being stubborn - it's fear.

    I've just taken on a 6 yr old collie bitch who I already knew was noise sensitive. She is terrified of thunder, fireworks, washing machines, etc. etc. What I hadn't considered was her terror of gas guns (bird scarers) and we are surrounded by the wretched things. It wasn't just outside either, she was just as bad in the house and shooting from room to room every time one discharged (about every 10 minutes from dawn to dusk).

    I put a thundershirt on her out on walks and administered Doreen Paige 'Crisis' remedy twice a day. That is an option you could explore. We've used the Doreen Paige remedies on quite a number of insecure/noise sensitive dogs that train here with quite a bit of success. They have a website.

    What really worked with this bitch, and it was touch and go for about 10 days, was good old fashioned dog training and my determination to succeed.
    I took her into the paddock every day and play trained her, being very exciting and using tuggies, ball launchers, squeaky toys and high value tit-bits. Initially she ran to the gate every time the gas gun discharged but little by little she improved. On walks she had to stay on the lead and up to a point it was tough love, in that I wasn't going to have my arms pulled out of their sockets every time she heard the gun. I remained very calm and matter of fact and totally ignored her fear and also requested that she do basic exercises like touching my hand, little recalls to heel and present - just simple things to help distract her with loads of praise and tit-bits.

    Fast forward three weeks and she is now off the lead on walks, playing with the outside toys and totally chilled as far as the gas guns are concerned. She is also perfectly happy to be in the kitchen with the washing machine and tumble dryer...:)

    She is always going to be noise sensitive and I expected trouble with fireworks around the 5 November. She actually peed in the middle of my duvet at the first firework display down the road. She can't help it bless her and neither can your bitch.
     
  9. Prowl

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    Have a look at Kikopups training channel on youtube I think you will find some interesting training options to help with your dogs problem.

    Unfortunately all what your doing at the moment is actually enforcing the problem and making it worse for her.

    Kikopup has some interesting videos about calming signals which I think you will find usefull in getting her over her fears.
     
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