Raw Chicken

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  1. xxxnickixxx

    xxxnickixxx PetForums Senior

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    ive started my dogs on raw diet ive started off feeding them chicken mince and tripe mince little bit of plain yogurt ...... its coming to end of there first week on raw and i want to know whats the best raw chicken to start off with i was thinking chicken necks but i cant get to the butchers at min so only got the local tesco would should i pick up ? :confused:
     
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    Many start on wings.....
     
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    Chicken necks, wings and stripped carcasses are the best by far, they have the correct meat/bone/fat ratio thereabouts and not too much muscle meat; they are also easier for dogs new to raw to cope with, the smaller softer bones are more easily managed ;)
     
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    If they have chicken wings, they're good. If you think your dogs might try and swallow them whole, then keep hold of one end of the wing (a piece of kitchen roll will help you grip it)

    I have a dog that used to swallow them without chewing them and she never had a problem, but better safe than sorry.
     
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    i was thinking about wings as i can get hold of a big pack from tesco but thought they might be too small for my medium size dog :confused:

    when i go into town ill ask the butcher for some chicken necks

    how many times a week do they need chicken bones ?
     
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    If they get constipated then cut back on the bone.
     
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    The ratio is 80:10:10, meat, bone, offal. This should be balanced over a week or so.
     
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    I'd give them actual bones at least twice per week, to help clean teeth which the minced stuff doesn't do. Once you start introducing other meats, with denser bones such as lamb, then they will take a little longer to deal with them, chicken wings are gone in a few seconds flat here.

    Instead of using them as a whole meal, why not just give them minced chicken, and end it with a chicken wing each for now? Once you've got other bones and meat introduced to their diet, then hopefully you'll have got a supply sorted out for them by then, I can honestly say, it's a lot less faff giving a bone than it is weighing out minced stuff, and they love it so worthwhile sourcing suppliers of chicken carcasses if you can. And I will get round to posting a few photos of how to take apart a chicken carcass leaving the boney bits for the dogs, promise :)
     
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    so its ok to give chicken mince then twice a week replace the tripe mince there getting with chicken wings?
    ill be going to the butchers next week should i just ask for necks ?
     
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    What type of dog have you got?

    Terence is around 20kg and he inhales wings. Hasn't done him any harm, but he's used to it. If you are worried about him not chewing, I personally wouldn't go for the necks. They are small ;)
    If you go to the butchers, ask for carcasses. Personally, I much prefer them to wings, they are cheaper and it takes Terence less than a second to eat.
     
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    Dex is 28kg medium sized dog and a chicken wing is crunched in half- thats it!! Never had him chuck them back up- just bury them down the back of the sofa...... :(
     
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    Just read over your post again, and thought I'd add something:

    Personally, I would get wings and substitute the chicken mince meals with wings. The advice of maybe adding on a wing to a mince meal is a good idea until you feel comfortable giving full bone meals.

    One word of caution: I'd avoid chicken legs. The ratios are all wrong. Too fatty and the bones are denser. So stick to wings. ;)
     
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    i will pick up some wings from the shop tomo ... if they take to these what other bone meals am i best trying next ?
    also how many wings is enough for one meal ? one of my small dogs weighs 13.4kilos and my medium dog just ova 15kilos
     
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    It depends on the size of the wings tbh, some are very small, others are actually quite big. Believe it or not, my two Labs would each have just two large wings as a meal, and Indie weighs more than both your dogs combined ;)
     
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    Well, if you aim for 3% of body weight, you are aiming for around 400g for the small one and 450g for the bigger one.
    Chicken wings tend to be around 100g, maybe slightly less, so 2 wings per meal. Obviously, you'd need to weigh them to find out how much they are exactly. Also, it depends on how you feed them. Some people give more for tea than breakfast.

    I tried lamb breast after chicken went well.

    ETA: After seeing SL's post, sometimes you can pick up massive wings which still have some of the ribcage and breast on. Obviously, they are much bigger and heavier and you need less per meal. If you go for the smartprice wings from asda, they tend to be on the small side. ;)
     
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    at the min im feeding half 1lb block chicken mince for breakfast and a dollop of natural yogurt to both dogs
    im only finding the really tiny chicken wings i think my local tesco have the same thats why im not sure how many to feed them both and wasnt sure which ones to buy so i thought i would check with you lovely people first lol :confused:
     
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    Those will be fine for them to eat.
    And if you're not sure about the amounts, weigh things. How much food do you give per dog, out of interest?
     
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    they both get half of 400g block of mince on a morning and same for tea with dollop of natural yogurt then my older dogs gets a bannana and carrot to snack as she loves them

    if i need to adjust or feed more please let me know as im just starting out :confused:
     
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    Sounds about right.
    You need to get bones in now for their teeth. Try the wings. They will be fine :)
     
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    How active are the dogs? Yours are similar sizes to mine, Lexi is around 15kg and Bos about 13kg.
    They get half a block of mince each on a morning which is 227g and then between 150 and 200g for tea depending if they have a 200g day the next day is 150g etc, but both of mine are quite active, I started out feeding 2% of their body weight and they both lost a lot of weight so upped it. They are both carrying a little bit extra weight at the minute but because its winter I'll let them.
     
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