puppy cries all night!!

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  1. chelleANDlottie

    chelleANDlottie PetForums Junior

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    hi im new to this forum stuff and to puppy life.
    i brougt home my westie puppy on saturday and so far night are hell, she goes into her crate very happy at about 10pm and settles quickly but wakes at 1am and 3 am and then 6am, :(
    do i let her out to pee ect or just leave her to cry all night?
    im not sure what is best.:confused:
    advice needed please

    also any other westie owners??
    thanks
    chelle and lottie
     
  2. Pamela

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    How old is she and what have you got in the crate for her?
     
  3. rainy

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    If i was you i would put a puppy pad (they are a bit more absorbent than paper) down one end and her bed down the other.

    That way she can pee if she needs to. She should stop messing her crate as soon as she is able as dogs naturally move away from their sleep areas to mess.

    Then if you can handle it go cold turkey. It took our puppy (we got him at 8 weeks) 3 nights to get the message that nighttime was for sleeping. We started off with 11pm til 6am and gradually extended it and he is now happy 10 til 7(ish).

    I would suggest covering the crate with a blanket to make the puppy feel more secure and leaving a radio on low (talk show or classical is best strangely).

    The alternative is to put the crate in your bedroom to reassure the puppy and move the crate downstairs when they have got used to being in there all night. This will take a bit longer but is perhaps a bit gentler.

    There is nothing wrong with getting up in the night to let them out but you have to be committed to doing that more long term and she may suss she gets attention in the night by crying.

    The first few weeks are really hard work but it's worth all the effort.

    :thumbup1:
     
  4. Fleur

    Fleur Vassal to Lilly and Ludo

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    I put my puppies crates in my bedroom so I could hear them if they woke up and I could take them straight out to the garden to go to the toilet.
    They were not stressed and settled quickly, as soon as they were sleeping all night I moved the crate downstairs and they have been fine.

    When I got Zipper I didn't want him in the bedroom as I didn't want him to get used to it and always sleep there - but he was getting distressed and having accidents - our dog trainer asked me where my children slept when they were tiny, I answered in my room, so she asked where do they sleep now, I answered in their rooms, - it made sense so I moved the crate and we were all much happier and less stressed.

    It's up to you what works best for your family, good luck with your puppy.
     
  5. enfieldchar69

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    hi i to got a pup which is a westie (x with a bichon), i got her friday and am having simular problems,tried the radio last night and she slept better but not sur eif it was a fluke,but she seems happier to go in her crate now,i know excactly how you feel im exhausted but also madly in love,lol x
     
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    Dixie used to go to her crate at 10pm, and wake to toilet at 1 and 4.
    I took her out on her lead, let her do the toilet then back to bed.

    After a good few weeks she started only getting up at 2am then she would sleep until 7 am.

    If your puppy is young she will need to pee through the night as they cant hold on, and if they dont get out to pee enough it could make toilet training really difficult, once she starts peeing in her bed its hard to stop.

    x
     
  7. chelleANDlottie

    chelleANDlottie PetForums Junior

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    HI lottie is 8 weeks old and came home on saturday.
    she goes to the crate very hapily about 9.30pm

    so i guess i just let her cry and deal with the mess in crate if there is any.

    my partner will NOT let her in the bedroom, but then hes not here at night!! so it not him dealing with the cying !:rolleyes:

    will try and do the ignoring tonight (and appologise to the neibours tomorrow!!)

    thanks for the advice
    chelle and lottie
     
  8. PoisonGirl

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    No, whatever you do, do not let her mess in her crate.. if she cries, take her out to pee.. otherwise it can ruin all your house training.
    Your puppy will see her crate as her wee sen.. She is crying because she will find it upsetting to mess there.

    Once she messes in her crate, it can be VERY difficult to stop.

    I once took on a 5 month old lab who had been shut in a crate for up to 20 hours a day, he was really hard to toilet train, he just didn't understand that he wasnt supposed to pee in his bed.. i ended up having to set my alarm for every hour (yes- 24 times every day!) and treating him hugely whenever he peed outside, ignoring him when he peed inside.. gradually I incresed the time between taking him out,, but if he was ever left too long, or had drank toomuch water, and if he peed in his crate i was pretty much back to square one.

    It is a good thing that she cries to let you know she needs to pee.. Dixie now askes to be let out, if I am watching tv she will come over to me, then go to the door and whine.
    She was pretty much house trained by 4 months, we rarely had an accident.

    x
     
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    I have three dogs, our first one Sophie was a crier. She was crated, half covered over, toy to cuddle and ticking clock outside crate beside her. I was told never to go down if they cry. It took a little while but she did stop crying and she never messed her crate. Molly was quite from day one, as was katie though with katie we did leave a radio on low, none of them ever soiled their beds.
    Try putting to bed as late as possible and always go outside and stay with them whilst they do their toilet and plenty of praise.
    Good luck, it's all well worth it in the end.
     
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    Forgot to add.. if you take her to pee on her lead, and she is only crying at night for atention, if she goes outside and doesnt pee, put her back to bed. She will soon learn that cryin only for needing to pee is ok, and if she doesnt need to pee, just to sleep.

    x
     
  11. rainy

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    Funny my OH wouldn't let the dog in our room either.

    Would try and leave it a bit later than 9.30 unless you are an early riser. The idea is to try and go down when they are quiet in the morning. (Don't forget big fuss and treat if she is.) Make sure you only let her out when she is quiet or she will learn that barking makes you appear. Oscar managed 7 hours ok without weeing but i doubt he could have gone much longer than that and ideally you dont want them to mess.

    Good Luck
     
  12. Fleur

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    I agree with Poison Girl - Don't let the pup soil the crate.
    Mum would of taught pup not to toilet in their bed - pup will get very distressed if she is left to mess her own bed.
    If you don't want the crate upstairs just pop down and take her out if she wakes, most young puppies can't hold their bladders all night, don't talk to her and no eye contact just take her out for a wee and put her straight back into her crate ad return to bed.
    Hope you get it sorted soon - but all puppies vary in how long they take to go all night.
     
  13. chelleANDlottie

    chelleANDlottie PetForums Junior

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    ok
    will try agin tonight and he next!!! untill i work this all out.
    i dont put her to bed at 9.30 she goes in herself!! and just setles down to sleep.
    thanks for all the advice
    chelle
     
  14. Mikat

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    It is really right! I was presented with my puppy when she she was only 20 days old , very small...she was peeing exactly at every hour..at 1,2,3.....pm so I was taking her out from her bed she was doing her "job" and then again I put her in her bed:) So it is ok, just have a patience :)
     
  15. chelleANDlottie

    chelleANDlottie PetForums Junior

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    :)pleased to report we had a good night.
    as usual she got into the crate herself at about 9.30pm, but i got her back out at 10.30 to piddle her. (she wouldnt got outside- so we will work on thet today)
    put radio on in the room
    no waking from her- it was only me who woke up worried i had missd her crying!!
    then at 6am she woke up.
    no mess in cage.
    it may just be a one off so will repaet again tonight
    chelle
     
  16. rainy

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    Glad it went well. Oscar sleeps all evening but i always take him out last thing, it has worked for us. :D
     
  17. Pamela

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    Glad all went well last night. We always make sure Holly goes before bed at about 10.30pm to 11.00pm and my Hubby comes down at 7.30am and lets her out of the cage and she's fine. Never had a problem with her at night. She did cry in the morning at about 7.00am when we first had her but soon stopped doing it when she realised we were ignoring her.
    Relax and enjoy the puppy stage you'll be fine.
     
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    my wife and i have only just started with a puupy dog having had cats all our married life which is 40 next year when we got Abbi a ckcs the first night she started crying from about 3.00am freda and i went down and stayed up she finally went to sleep around about 5.00am that day i called the breeder and asked her advice she said leave a light on and also put a clock the ticking type on top of the cage works a treat
     
  19. chelleANDlottie

    chelleANDlottie PetForums Junior

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    please to report lottie slept again all night, :)from about 11 till 6am.
    just left the radio on.
    tomorrow we have the vets so will ask him loads of my questions, but i will keep an eye on here as the questions i have seam to be the same ones everyone asks so i dont feel so bad.:D
    thanks
    chelle
     
  20. Fleur

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    Glad she has settled - don't be shy asking the vet questions, after all that's what they are there for;)
     
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