problems when trying to discipline my puppy

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  1. Benstanley

    Benstanley PetForums Junior

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    When she is naughty i shout at her and point my finger, sometimes give a bop on the nose. But she has now started to try and nip when i shout at her and barks back at me!

    What am i doing wrong and how can i stop her doing this?

    Thanks Ben
     
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    Well I would nip your finger if you bopped me on the nose.. :)
     
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    Whats things is she doing wrong you need to explain yourself a bit more.. :) examples please.. :)
     
  4. Benstanley

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    Jumping on the sofa gets a shouting at
    stealing food gets a shouting at
    chewing things she isnt supposed to - usual answer for this is all pups do but at the end of the day she shouldnt thats why she gets a shouting at.
    only bop her when she bites.
     
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    Ok.. well obviously shouting at her is doing absolutely nothing.. i believe prevention is far better than cure and can't understand why someone would shout at a puppy.. you wouldn't just shout at a baby now would you.. you see.. you need to teach an animal, shouting only teaches the animal to be scared..

    So how old is pup... and have you been teaching pup sit and down.. and no?
     
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    Yes she sits on command and lies down on command when we have her attention. She is 9 weeks old. And NO is what i shout at her probably should have made that a bit more obvious lo. I shout "shyla, no" she chews the carpet which is not really preventable to be honest.

    We have a clicker which she is amazing with, but when she goes on one of her rampages she doesnt respond to anything. Was wondering what other peoples methods were when there dog is naughty.
     
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    Well I have had Bobby here since he was 6 weeks.. and to be honest I have other dogs so dont experience a rampage.. but.. I taught him straight away.. sit and down.. When he greets someone I say down and when he was a bub.. I would tell them one hand on his back one on his chest and fuss him in the sat position.. he now greets people with a sit..
    The way we say things might be not mean anything to a pup.. 9 weeks old is very young and therefor we should prevent situations.. Have you got a crate?
    If it was my puppy And they jumped on the furn and I didn't want them to I would say.. nooooo and take them down.. and repeat...
    Puppies will chew anything given the opportunity.. :) You need to take there mind off it.. so if you notice pup is going to chew.. immediately do something to distract pup.. If pup picks something up it shouldn't I do an excited call to get there attention and make them think I am more exciting.. this usually leads to pup giving me item without it being an issue.. I refuse to chase the pup round the house, and creating a game.. I think crate training is great.. but this shouldn't be used as a punishment place.. but maybe sometimes a bit of a time out place.. You have probably only had your pup a week.. So you need to start now as you mean to go on.. and pointing and shouting isn't the way.. I dont know what type of puppy you have or what you feed.. cause this also can hae a big bearing on your puppies behaviour.. :)
     
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    Personally I find it a lot easier to show someone what I mean rather than put it on paper.. if ya get me.. :)
     
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    Cool. A bit more info from me then. She is a husky x collie. Had her since sunday so yes exactly a week. We have a crate but she doesnt like it. She yelps like mad and we are rtying to get her used to it by leaving it open with her food in it but she only goes in there when she must i.e to feed or for water. I dont chase her at all i call her until she comes then hold her until she listens to my sit command. She is very good with other people although she hasnt met many as she has only had one set of injections so we havent taken her out. We feed her butchers puppy food (biscuit type) with a bit of wet meaty food in it aswell 4 times a day (like it says on the packet as she is around 6.2 kgs

    Thanks for all the advice :) more is welcomed :lol:
     
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    You shout her name and tell her off. Guess what she's not going to do when you take her out and shout her name to call her back to you.
     
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    point taken. But i usually shout her name to get her attention then when she is looking at me i shout no. Although now i can see that is a silly idea.:thumbup:
     
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    You have took of one hell of a pup. Coliies extremely inteligent.. and huskies crave exercise..
    Is the crate in a room where you are?
    And you say she doesn't like it.. no most dont when they haven't been in them from the start.. So you need to start from the beginning with crate training.. So only short amounts of times in there.. Have you given her any chews yet..
     
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    As puppies aren't born understanding English do you think shouting a foriegn language will make it any easier to understand than talking calmly?
     
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    ROFL.. this makes me think of men.. and there hearing. did their mothers always shout their name so they got to the point of ignoring it?? :lol:
     
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    She is mega intelligent :lol: but she is gorgeous. And when she is good she is really good. She has a kong, two parma ham bones, two stuffed bones, a tug toy with a tennis all on it a few squeaky toys some tddies, she has loads, and a fair few like denta rask style things. It is in the kitchen but we spend most our tim ein the lounge so thinking about it ill bring it in the lounge. we have left her in the kitchen for the past few nights with the door open and she does sleep in as if i get up before her shes in there but if locked in for even a few mins she starts yelping.
     
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    also a frisbee off of the vet that she loves
     
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    Shouting at her, then calling her and holding her in the position so she sits so she is forced too, plus swiping her on the nose is only going to teach her one thing and that it to fear and avoid you. From 7/12 weeks is Human socialisation period, where the dog begins to have the capacity to process experiences, They also go through a period of fear impact 8 to 11 weeks
    where nature gives them a pre programmed fearfullness. Bad experiences at this age can be fixed in the dogs memory. Shes a mix of a primitive breed Sibe and a breed that can be highly strung and sensitive collie.

    You need to reward the pup for good behaviour. By giving treats as rewards for sitting and coming to you. Teaching her verbal commands as you do it.
    The crate needs to be something thats seen as her den and a bed. Did you try just shutting her in there at first, If you did that may be why she panicked initially, Instead make it a game by putting chews and toys and her bed in there, and maybe throwing in treats that she can chase in after and find. The rest of the time just leave it open and see if she will settle in there with a chew or a stuffed kong toy filled with food. If she does then just close the door for a minute or two at a time then open it again, increasing the time she stays in their slowly. If shes on the sofa, have a treat and walk bacwards show her the treat and call her. If she jumps up, then turn your back fold your arm and tell her off, and ignore her until she has calmed down.
    Basically she gets praise and treats for doing as you ask, and no attention for behaviour you dont want. If she is chewing something she shouldnt, then
    re direct it to something she can chew like her own toys, chews or a kong.

    If you have never trained a dog before, I would enrol her in a puppy class as soon as she is able to go to one.
     
  18. Benstanley

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    Amazing advice this! Thanks. I plan on enrolling her as soon as she has had her second jab. There is one advertised at my local vet so will be ringing them asap. I treat her loads when she is good. I bought ham and cheese primula and when she sits, lies down, wee's, poo's etc she gets some, her kong is always filled with chicken bits or black pudding but she just brings it out of the crate. I didnt put her in the crate when i first got it just left it open with her bed food and water in so she could have nosey. Then tried opening and closing it. Tried her in it for a night which was a bad idea so now we are taking it slowly just leaving it open with treats bed and water in and she comes and goes as she wants. after another week or so i will be trying her again overnight aslong as she is comfortable with the crate.

    Im not after criticism just help. I undertsnad i may have been doing things wrong but this is my first pup and thats why i joined for help and tips from other more experiance pet owners.
     
  19. Sled dog hotel

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    It wasnt meant to be critism, and I hope you havent taken it as such, I was just explaining what stages she is going through and how things can effect them at this age. Even things we wouldnt even think about normally. It will take her awhile to settle in too. Everything is strange and being taken away from mum and litter mates is a highly stressful time for them. Good luck and I hope things go well. Let us know how you are getting on.
     
  20. Benstanley

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    No not aimed at yourself. You have been massivly helpful. the first few times she jumped up i used a squeaker toy and she came now she is ignoring me lol. And she comes down eats the treat then goes back up lol any tips?
     
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