Dog pee smells of ammonia

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  1. evoisey

    evoisey PetForums Newbie

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    Basically it all happened about 2 weeks ago when we woke up and had a really strong stench of peroxide didnt think anything of it and its just become the norm. Ive tried sorcing the smell thinking it was electrics at first and started smelling radiators and my appliances. This smell is so strong it is giving me really bad headaches and making me feel sick. I have since got so annoyed with this smell i have looked it up on the internet and thought it could be to do with our pup. He is nearly 4 Months old and is sort of house trained quite difficult to train as he is left all day on his own apart from when we come home at lunch to let him out so he has been peeing on the carpet i always clean it off using so many carpet and pet odour cleaning products. So can you tell me if it is ammonia in our pups wee or is it something else if so how am i going to get rid of this smell as i cant stick it for much longer. Has our pup got something wrong with him. Thank Evo x
     
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    personaly I would take him to vets to get him checked out.

    sorry i dont have the answers.:)
     
  3. rona

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    Is he drinking enough?
     
  4. paddyjulie

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    I think he needs a trip to the vets just to be on the safe side
    try and get a sample off him to see if it is the wee thats smelling
    juliex
     
  5. CarolineH

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    Well for one thing, poor puppy, left alone all day. :( Hardly ideal for a social animal like a dog. You are right, housetraining will be difficult if you are not there to do it. Letting him out once a day is not enough, especially for a baby like him! What are you going to do when he is adult? Shut him outside on his own all day to howl with loneliness or turn a room into a wet room that you can hose down? :cool:

    Your carpet is going to stink of course, if you can stand that then good luck to you! Or, you could get a professional carpet cleaning service in to clean it. Or replace it every now and then. But as for puppy, if his pee is really smelling that strong then you will have to take him to the vet to be checked over.

    For help with housetraining please see one of my previous posts here - http://www.petforums.co.uk/dog-training-behaviour/75317-housetraining-your-pup-older-dog.html but of course, you will have to be home more for it to be a success...

    Sorry if I have been blunt and my words were probably not what you wanted to see but I have to be honest at least for the pups sake. :confused:
     
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    evoisey PetForums Newbie

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    before i got my pup i was working full time and took that into consideration he goes out everyday for a walk and my partner is home and hour everyday to spend time with him and let him out. Yes some may think that its cruel but as for me i lead a normal life and i give my pup all the attention in the world when im home. I am also home weekends which are completely devoted to the dog. So this ammonia smell could mean he has to go to the vets?
     
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    i would think a trip to the vets let us know how you get on
     
  8. dimkaz

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    the ammonia smell is particularly strong when the feed is particularly rich in proteins, try and eat only meat for a week and your wee will smell of ammonia as well especially when it goes a bit stale...
    at four months though the pup should eat a particularly protein-rich diet as it's growing and needs always water available...so make sure of that!

    leaving the pup so many hours alone won't help with the house training (or with the mental balance of the pup itself) in some countries it is considered cruelty and persecuted any owner found to leave a pup for a certain number of hours depending on age. for example 3 months - over 2 hours, 4 months over 3 hours and adults for over 6 hours etc.

    and there is a reason for that
    :)

    good luck
    best
    d
     
  9. michaelasi

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    I found this for you hope it helps

    'Question

    My dogs urine has a VERY strong odor of ammonia. I know some smell is normal but this seems excessive. Could there be a problem?
    Submitted: 549 days and 12 hours ago.
    Category: Dog Value: $15 Status: CLOSED +Read More
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    Dear friend,
    No such a strong ammonia smell is not normal. Your girl may have a urinary tract infection.
    You are absolutely correct to be concerned, Not only can recurring infections damage your baby's urinary tract but her immune system as well.
    UTI's must be treated with an effective broad spectrum antibiotic like Clavamox or clidimycin and for a long enough duration so all bacteria is eradicated. If not, they will refluorish, stronger and more resistant and reinfect her. In addition, the bacteria can become tolerant of the same anibiotic so the medication should be varied for best results.
    Bladder Stones
    Naxcel
    An Owner's Guide to Canine Urolithiasis
    She should also be encouraged to drink as much as possible to keep the kidneys and bladder flushed. You can give her one daily tsp of unsweetened (only) cranberry juice or 100 mg of vitamin C crushed into her food. That will reduce the PH of her urine and make her bladder inhospitable to UTI bacteria. It should defuse the odor as well.
    It is also possible these events may be triggered by stones or crystals. She should have a urine analysis so you will know for sure. Sometimes bacteria does not show up. If so she should still complete a round of antibiotics.
    I would also check for sugar just to rule out diabetes.
    Please let me know if you still have questions and how your baby is feeling. I will be happy to help.


    Read more: My dogs urine has a VERY strong odor of ammonia. - JustAnswer'
     
  10. michaelasi

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    Also I recommend you baby pampers . I know sounds ridiculous , however I have the same problem with one of my cats . The only thing is that my cat knows what is cat litter but he refuses to use for wee the littler so he used my curtains .
    Basically what you can do is ; check the size of your dog and buy some baby pampers , make a hole for the tail and before you put the pampers on him get rid of the small powder from the nappy's hole. Or you an buy the tesco version which is made from cotton .

    However the dog is quite young ( and he chews allot ) so I can recommend to lock online after dog nappy's , they are a bit more expensive but they are made from some waterproof material and can be washed. the reason I rather recommend the dog nappy's is because the baby pampers is a bit more easy to be destroyed . This option is yours but if there is little time to get the dog house trained well you can go along with the nappy's . Of course you have to start putting them over the weekend when you have more time to spend with your do and in this way he can get used with the knickers :laugh: . It was about 12-13 years ago when we had the same problem with one of my female dogs . She was 3 and half months when we adopted her , but she spend all her life -since she was new born pup till the day we got her- out side in kennels and she was used to wee everywhere . so since the age of 4 months till 5-6 months she used the nappyes in doors after that one day I think she decided enough is enough and that was it .


    I should take the dog to Vet as most of people here told you , You better have a check on her rather then have any regrets .

    good luck
     
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    :shocked:

    This advice is a joke right? You are not serious? Please tell me you're not? :blink:

    OP, please....... take your puppy to the vet and get him checked out. Hope it is nothing too serious.
     
  12. michaelasi

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    no dear it is not a joke .

    I think some people are going a bit to far trying to even suggest the fact in some countries letting a pup by him self it is a criminal offense
    in the thread of this user . SHe put a question , I do not believe she aspected to be hammered by some of the users in such offensive way .




    You KNOW for some of US GOING TO WORK MEANS TO BRING MONEY HOME AND BE ABLE TO FEED THE DOG , with out money the dog can not be fed and so on .
    I think you over reacted ]

    PS I can send you some pictures on how you can use the pampers with my cat as an example .
     
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    Oh please do. :)
     
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    In reality people have to work usually full time in order to put a roof over their heads and their pets, they also need to work to pay for pet food,toys vet bills insurance etc. Im in the same boat as evoisey as i work full time and my pup is left but i do come home for an hour during the day to spend time with him and he also gets walked every evening and given loads of attention...not everyone is on benefits or can afford to not work so i dont see how its cruel for the animal as long as its got a loving, caring home and responsible owner. What you are trying to say is people who have jobs should be banned from owning pets??
     
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    Wee Smelling strong of ammonia can also indicate a serious liver problem...as My Dog Ozzy's Wee smelt like this... even got to the stage we where having to throw Jeyes fluid over the shillies in garden to get rid of the ammonia smell..
    Please take him to the vets if its as bad as you say...as it could be very serious

    Juliex
     
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    i agree people have to work and owning dogs shouldnt be restricted only to people out of work...

    HOWEVER....

    ... a puppy IS NOT suitable for this type of situation (toilet training becomes frustrating, other types of rules become difficult to establish etc and obviously puppy needing the social interaction etc) and an older dog should have been considered which then could be looked after reasonable by hiring a dog walker or put in doggy daycare while at work etc....
     
  17. CarolineH

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    Ditto. :eek: It's like leaving a toddler alone all day with someone popping in at lunchtime to change it's nappy :cool: and give it a meal. Most normal people would not dream of doing that to such a young child but it would seem that a lot of people see nothing wrong in leaving a baby puppy alone for such a long time, punctuated only by a short visit from someone to allow it to stretch its legs and empty its bladder and then it is shut up again for more lonelyness and boredom. :confused:
     
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    seriously??? you use them on cats???? god knows what my cats would do if i had tried to put them on them!!

    it is all about training - not just sticking a nappy on them! otherwise how will they ever learn...?

    my cats didnt like the feel of their litter and my kitten wee'd outside it on the floor when she was little - so i changed her litter to the flushable stuff and no problem ever since and they are now 16 months old! there are a LOT of different types of litter to try out there...

    my puppy was taught by taking her out very regularly - but I understand that some people have to work - so if you are not at home, puppy pads or newspaper can be put down...nappies are not a solution to being left at home a long time so not being let out - think of a baby - you wouldnt leave it in a dirty nappy for hours...same goes for a dog/cat!

    do you actually mean that the dog continues to use the nappies into being an adult? or just while they are small and cannot hold it? if it is until an adult then this is just cruel!! :mad:

    I hope i have misunderstood something here...

    edit: just to add, the reason they sell these 'dog nappies' is for incontinence and for when dogs are in season and stuff, not for a substitute for toilet training!
     
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    In terms of the ammonia scent, I have studied A Level Chemistry and Biology and spent a large amount of time in the labs the last few years.

    To me my dog's urine always smells similar to ammonia, the formular for ammonia is NH3 and the formula for urea (which is what the kidneys produce, is toxic and diluted with water and flushed out of the system) is CO(NH2)2 and so the components are similar in that respect. Re the peroxide bit and then it being ammonia, do you know specifically what each smells like or is it an example, because those two are rather different chemicals and peroxide actually has such a small scent that most people cannot even detect it when trying to :eek:

    However, I assume you mean the smell is different than normal, and not that you have just noticed it? In which case yes, the vets is the best bet. Like anything, when it smells stronger it means it is more concentrated and it could be food or anything, a vet is probably best to take a sample and send it off if they can't find anything on the tester stick straight off. Sounds like it could just be pee that has been down a while and you haven't managed to clear it all up as well though. Our cats are a bit incontinent now they are older and it can smell odd so we have to scrub it a lot.

    In regard to pampers etc, I don't intend to comment whoever posted about that :eek:
     
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    well, as for working arrangement i work full time...and only since the beginning of this year i have managed to have puppies...given that i was out of th ehome from 8 am to 17/1800 h i aonly had adult rescue dogs that could be left alone and ask my partner, sometimes a firend some other time a professional to go there at lunch time to let the dogs out. since i started to be able to carry on working still full time (but spending more time working form home) i started again breeding and keeping puppies...
    it is not incompatible working full time and keeping puppies as long as even a neighbour or a dog minder (they are not expensive if the job is regular and continuous) can go and let the dog out in the garden or take it for a stroll around the block so one can continue to work full time and care for the pet properly.

    don't flag from a higher ground that some people have to work to put a roof over their heads and feed the dogs/cats the majority of people on here is working 8-10 hours a day and still manage!....it's usually not a doctor's order to keep pets, and if one cannot attend to their basic needs, then one should not keep one at all!

    having said that, we have given the OP many suggestions as asked and expressed concern for the long hours the pup is left on its own...
    in general terms, it is NOT RIGHT, and in some countries that is actually an offence! (i think this came through, quite clearly, as a warning).


    :)
    best
    D
     
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