A few of us from another forum are setting up a website which will eventualy contain a picture of every single variation of mouse/rat/hamster and gerbil (and possibly a few other thigns but thats what we are starting with!!) that has ever been photographed. However our forum, which is running comps to find the perfect pics for each variation, doesnt have very many gerbil/hamster people. We are appealing for help in finding these photographs so that pet owners and breeders can identify what they have at a glance without trawling the internet and getting confused (as I first did way back when I got a hamster as a kid!!). PLEASE do contact me at pure_pink_seduction@hotmail.com or I can be contacted via TVR Forums under the id of MrsNik