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Old 06-11-2009, 12:07 AM
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Re: Dumbo Rat Help Needed!!

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You really should get all the facts before accusing people of mistreating animals. It's to easy to jump to conclusions without researching the facts first.
This just isn't the case. Sorry. Rats sold by PAH are bred by the rodent equivalent of PUPPY FARM breeders.
As someone who first imported Dumbos to the UK, I know what is going on, and I know more than most people about them.

PAH 'adoption' is a farce, they are using it to home unsold stock, which are born and bred in warehouses.
Would you like to clarify your claims here? Many people will be happy to challenge you. I am not jumping to any conclusions.

Get all your facts, please.... before tackling us, who know a lot more than it seems you do.
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:42 AM
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Re: Dumbo Rat Help Needed!!

I actually know someone who breeds rodents for PAH, as he rentsbarns where I used ot keep my horses. I am not sur eif his standards are usualy, he is self employed and sells to PAH, but I really have to say, I do feel his animals are kept adequately considering the number he keeps and the fact that it has to be economically viable fo rit to be a business.

His Guinea pigs are all in outside hutches attached to runs, some of the rabbits too. (seperately to the guinea pigs). Smaller rodents, hamsters, gerbils etc are kept in largish plastic tanks. I expect all are bred more than most people would feel comfortable with, and he does not breed with temprement or health in mind, admittedly, BUT his animals are handled daily as the children at the farm help him out and spend time with the animals. The animals are all kept clean and well fed, and I do not feel rodent farms are comparable to puppy farms at all.

I am not saying things in this persons ideally wouldn't be better/different, but I wouldn't say his animals are suffering either. I suspect they have a far better life than the many small pets bought for children and then forgotten about or kept incorrectly,
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:58 AM
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Re: Dumbo Rat Help Needed!!

True that occasionally pets sold on adoption are from pets at home as they have become to old, but this is stated on the adoption notice. Other animals are those brought in by members of the public who can no longer look after them.
Obviously breeding is not going to be the same as having pets at home, but I just wanted to make clear that the animals at pets at home have the best start possible for an animal store, this was the aim when pets at home was first established. It is true that some of the animals may contract health problems, but normally if pets at home hear this they contact the supplier to let them know, standard policy.

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Re: Dumbo Rat Help Needed!!

My two female dumbo rats were also bought from pets at home and are 1 and a half, they were extremely shy at first and hated coming near me, mine have bitten twice only and are now extremely loving and friendly. Mine are still slightly shy and are sometimes reluctant to be held or stroked by new people. I found that by sitting by them for 10-15 minutes a day really helps, they soon got used to me and now i often find them waiting for me, it really is just a case of them starting to recognise you/your scent, don't make any sudden noises or movements and talk softly to them. Cleaning out is also bonding time, talk to them and if your feeling brave stroke one finger from their shoulder blades down, they quite like this. Hope I could help. x
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Re: Dumbo Rat Help Needed!!

I have two beautiful little boys i bought from pets at home about 4 months ago, they were sold to me extremley young, i asked for specific colours and they bought my boys out to me!
I fell inlove with them straight away and they were very skitish and very scared of me! i bought them home and let them settle a couple of days as you do and then the bonding started! i got them out everyday after work and let them walk all over me literally letting them explore! they were petrified of my hands at first and it has taken them some time to come to terms with me and my fiancee!
Now i have the most effectionate rats ive ever had! You put your hand in their cage and they sit an groom you, they will curl up on your lap and doze off! they still get a little scared and sounds like he hoover but in time they will come to just accept it!
Anyone who has had rats before will agree with me that if you are getting a rat they are not to just sit in the cage and not be handled! once they get used to you they are fantastic pets and very effectionate!
i really hope they get used to you as my boys were exactly the same you just have to persivere with them and make them know that you are here to be there friends and not hurt them! once you have one over their trust they are very loyal!
hope this helps and dont worry its not just you that had this problem! x
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Re: Dumbo Rat Help Needed!!

This is a very old post made in 2008 so I dont think they'd be alive today.
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Re: Dumbo Rat Help Needed!!

Our hamster, Stoid, RIP, used to bite when we didnt let her out for a few days. I used to wear leather gloves till she calmed down in a day or two.

Now I pick up my pets up in a long tube. I never force them on my hands i sit on the floor with a tub of munchies on me and they run on me. and I feed them treats from my hands. Eventually they will be happy being picked up but I always but my hands down after so they can escape. They will start to feel hands are treats and lifts. And we let them run on the inside of our dressing gowns if the waists is tide.

If your rodent climbes on you by there choise it loves you. Stoid allways ran over us across the sofa. Ike the gerbil wouldnt go on hands but would sit on your shoulder. 117 and 118 degus ran in dressing gown when young then slept on you as they got older. Jarhead sits on me for treats and nicks my hazelnuts. They all show you they care in their own way.
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