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Re: can anyone help

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BioCatOlet should not be used for rats. It is scented which can irritate the rat's respiratory tract just as much as the phenols from shavings. If you wanted to use paper pellets in the litter tray then you should use something that is 100% paper AND non scented. Paperlit pellets from finacard are good.
is it? i've never noticed a scent on it and it doesn't mention one.

folk on fancy rats use it all the time, that's where i got the idea.
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is it? i've never noticed a scent on it and it doesn't mention one.

folk on fancy rats use it all the time, that's where i got the idea.

Here's a link for you. It's in the products review section on Fancy Rats, and they're saying it's scented. I wouldn't know if it did or not as I have no sense of smell, but a lot of people on FR will not use it because it's scented.
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Re: can anyone help

And here is the link to the Boicatolet website which says that it has 'Built in winter and summer perfumes'.
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what the hell is a winter and summer perfume??

i've emailed them to ask.
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what the hell is a winter and summer perfume??
errr.....I have no idea but will be interested to know if they respond!
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Re: can anyone help

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The perfume is used to mask the smell for the cat using the litter tray.

The 2 perfumes as we call them are both veg /fruit based.

The volume of perfume is 5lt to 5000lt of water it will not harm pets

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as he's technically saying it's not a 'perfume' in the proper sense but a fruit based masking 'chemical' mixture, and at that v/v concentration there is no danger to rats, even if it contained phenols or other rat no-nos it would be at a trace amount close to what they would encounter in nature anyway.

so it is safe for use with rats.
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Re: can anyone help

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i've had a reply

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The perfume is used to mask the smell for the cat using the litter tray.

The 2 perfumes as we call them are both veg /fruit based.

The volume of perfume is 5lt to 5000lt of water it will not harm pets

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as he's technically saying it's not a 'perfume' in the proper sense but a fruit based masking 'chemical' mixture, and at that v/v concentration there is no danger to rats, even if it contained phenols or other rat no-nos it would be at a trace amount close to what they would encounter in nature anyway.

so it is safe for use with rats.
I remember when I first joined FR a couple of years ago that some people on there used Biocatolet but then they changed the recipe & started using these perfumy things so it became a no-no. I'd rather not risk it, just in case, I've got some quite wheezy girls & one wheezy boy to worry about
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Re: can anyone help

simply, it's like those 'medicines' you get from certain practitioners.. where the 'medication' is watered down to 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 01% so that it won't cause the sufferer a reaction..which is the same as drinking water from the tap.



the chances of the fragrances they use having anything potentially bad at toxic levels or that are bioaccumulative are negligable (anything bioaccumulative wouldn't be allowed in by EU/brit law for a start)

0.005ml to 5 litres of water v/v concentration put in i'd challenge anyone to notice that much orange juice smell in water a straight swap test. it would include using a pipette to introduce the amount of juice to 5 litres. (someone good at science maths make sure i've got the concentration right will you? i'm not sure if it's 0.005 or 0.005ml for 5L, dsycalculic and not done this for 6 years doesn't help.)
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