This thread has been quite interesting.
I had never thought about where all the frozen mice & chicks had come from in the local pet shops.

I think you are being unfair with your quote about kittens & puppies.
Mark has made no mention of culling kittens & puppies.

If I owned a snake I would like to buy the food from someone who had cared for them beforehand. As long as he treats his animals well & culls them in a humane way - I see no problem.

Snakes have to eat, so let them eat Mark's mice.

I think you will just have to agree to disagree on this one & give the moderators a break, they have enough to do.

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One thing that interests me Le Loup and I mean no disrespect , its just a question thats occured to me

You have dogs dont you ?
do you feed them meat or deny them their natural diet because of your own beliefs ?

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You can not tarnish all mice/rat/small breeders with the same brush.

My friend breeds mice for her own enjoyment and she does cull on occasion due to the high amount born in litters. I think she has culled 4 out of a litter of 18! and the mother killed 4 more.

Mother nature also cull and you say nothing about that. I used to have a small collection of mice a few years ago and my first girl gave birth to 14, when they were ready to leave only 8 was alive. I remember finding one and it was dragged from the nest and half eaten, I could not see anything wrong with it but obs to the mother something was a miss.

I have Guinea Pigs and I know of some evil breeder that will kill any male(boar) that is born because he doesn't want people getting their hands on his show 'stock', I also know this man doesn't have a pig in his shed over 2yrs old.

It happened within any breeding process, dogs, cats, rabbits, small rodents, farm, wild animals. Sometimes its unnecessary due to the animal being the wrong sex or markings but if an animal is born with an illness is it right to keep it alive? We have the option to terminate children with Downs etc, so what is the difference?

Emma x

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Ive only culled down on my last 3 litters as i still have 4 males from my 1st show litter. Thankfully they all get along so they can all live in the same tub, Yes that right i said tub as in storage tub converted into a cage.

I think this is where I would probably start agreeing with the statement of don't breed if you don't have the space. If it's healthy then it should live. This is a questionable act on your friends behalf.

As for this, I completely agree that on the grounds of deformaties etc it is more than acceptable to cull (and feed to your snake, per say) but sadly I do not think we were talking just about necessary cullings.

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a snake in the wild wouldn't be picky about it's next meal, it would just go and kill it, so why the hell do you need the mice to be just perfect before you cull them?

Unfortunately, we live in a society where killing animals is normal, i'm a big believer, that if it's humanely killed, then fine. but i don't agree on killing animals that are 'runts' or not deemed good enough.

There is also evidence that mice as well as other rodents get stressed or depressed when they loose their young, so when people kill pinkies for reptile food, how do you know that the mum isn't feeling the pain and grief.

Rodents in general are far more intelligent than people will realise.

Le Loup- i'm sorry, i know how hard this for you to read when your a vegan. I hope this topic hasn't upset you too much *hugs*

i think you'll find that alot of reptile owners feed their snakes/lizards etc live mice, rats, rabbits, chinchillas, guinea pigs etc

Le Loup i totally agree with u on this!!

I MEAN CUMON!!!!

If u was expecting triplets would you 'cull'

two of them . and then pass it on to a lion tamer for the lion to

eat

SAME PRICIBLE!!

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Well they should be reported and they are only putting there animals at risk feeding live.

As ive already said i cull to take out the males, yes it harsh but as ive already said its hard enough to find homes for females but males are far worse befor elong id end up with a shed full of male mice, I would rather the mice i cull be fed to a snake and not just thrown a way like rubbish this way they have a purpose.

As for cull you take them away over a period of a week to 10 days not all at once. Ive never culled anything over 10 days old.

MARK HOW DO YOU CULLTHEM??

i just wanna know

why the hell breed em if u cant find homes anyway

STICK WITH SOMTHING THAT WILL SELL or just keep em and DONT BREED!!

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