I can esure you i dont sell the babies that i have culled i give them to friends to feed there animals.

Do some reseach first you cant make a profit from breeding mice, You spend more raising a litter, or at least i dont make money from them yes i sell them but the money goes straight back into the mice.

As for rat breeders saying mice breeders are worse for culling, I know a rat breeder and she says that rat breeders arent that much better either and that some can be quite rude.

Moneywise im sure rat breeders make a lot more money from breeder than mice breeder do.

I sell my mice at £3 each, To my left ive got 4 female rats that cost me £10 each, Behind me ive got 2 males that cost £10 for the pair as i rescued them from being snake food ( this was when i didnt care much about snakes but now my attitude has changed and i dont mind them or the fact that they eat mice )

Rat breeders don't make money from selling rats most of the time and they do not make much of a profit. Being rude is slightly different from killing your own pets.

Why breed something you can't rehome?

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That would be great if you could link it Mark, I am still very new to breeding them and I don't want to get it wrong and start getting the babies in-breeding with each other.

i'mconfused because people have to breed mice for repitle food, so is this wrong?
should my snakes have to die because there'snot food, surely this is just the same as one rat dying.

I think Le Loup is against anything dying, e.g. you should make your snake a nice nut roast to eat......lol

I think its very cruel to rear animals and then kill them for food. Snakes and reptiles is a touchy situation because yes snakes have to eat. In an ideal world if you have to kll an animal to feed an your pet you shouldn't have it as a pet. But obviously you will dissagree with that because you like snakes.

Being vegan i don't believe in raising animals for food...for ANY species.

And i certainly don't agree with people breeding mice and murdering the young and telling people its because snakes need to eat. the next step is feeding the snakes live mice!

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Live feeding is horrible and illegal over here.

The mice i raise for food have a good diet, a healthy size are not over bred. I use the two most humane methods causing less stress as possible.

"True animal lovers, Love all animals not just selected species" a little quote ive heard somewhere dont ask me where because it was long ago but it just sticks in my mind.

I know you can get snakes that eat bird eggs only,do you believe that is also wrong.

Do you also believe that nature is wrong aswel ? animals eat animals deal with it. If people chose to keep an animal that eats other animals then its there responsiblity to find the best food source avaiable.

Im sure if i was to breed my rats id make more money than i am at the moment breeding mice.


i keep my mice in a shed, which is well isulated, lighted, heated and has a good airflow. I spend £100-£150 a month on stuff for my mice and rats.

I only have about 27 mice at the moment and 6 rats ( thinking about rescuing some more females as the 4 i have all came from breeders )

Feeding animals to animals is completly different to animals hunting and catching their prey in the wild. in the wild the mice that your snakes eat don't get killed by a human and fed to the snake. They have to use their ingenuity to find and cath the food, then the mice have just as much chance escaping as they do getting caught. You can't possibly compare that to you feeding a mouse you killed to a snake.

Also can i add i opened this topic because i was horrified of what mouse breeders do. I do not want a discussion about how you can justify you murdering baby mice so you can look cool owning a snake.

Please if you going to argue with me constantly on how "moral" and how "humane" it is to cull down litters then i'd like a moderator to close this thread because it's just advertising cruelty in everyway.

Do you go about culling down kittens and puppies too? i bet you don't so don't try to tell me that killing baby animals is right and perfectly ok.

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This is quite similiar to choosing between owning a pig, feeding him up and eating him or buying frozen meat from Tesco. Either way a pig dies and gets up on my dinner table, but I prefer not to know what happens to that poor little piggy so I opt for Tesco.

So if I owned a snake, I would probably deem it more acceptable to buy frozen mice from a pet shop and feed that, rather than breed my own mice. Its just about morals at the end of the day.

Frozen mice are horrible from pet shops they are over bred are not in the best of health.

You dont have to breed your own mice to feed your snake, you can look for other breeders of mice that sell them as snake food.

Healthy mouse = Healthy snake.

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I dont have a snake, but in the near future i will be getting one and id rather give them healthy mice rather than pet shop mice.

Maybe you didnt open this as a discussion but thats what youve got as youve just said how horrible people are for doing it you havent researched the pros it only the cons.

Also not every mouse breeder culls down on litters and not every rat breeder tells to truth about not culling as im sure some do otherwise people wouldnt be able to by frozen rats or rat pups and rat pinkies.