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Old 25-10-2010, 04:53 PM
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New hamster

Hey everyone,

I'm new to this forum and I just picked up a Syrian hamster yesterday and thought I'd join a forum in case I had any questions or anything. So far everything is fine - I've set his/her (I haven't figured out the sex yet) cage up, and he (let's just call him that for now) seems to be settling in quite nicely.

I realize that you're supposed to let them get to know their new home for a few days, a week would be best, before handling them or disturbing them too much, so I've left him alone for the most part, except for when I took him out and played with him once. He seemed to be scared, and that would be obvious, considering he just got a new home, but he was also very fast and I looked up on Youtube videos about Syrians and they all seemed so calm and slow, and they let their owners handle them. Is he going to calm down? He seems to be eating, that's a good sign. The only thing I have to do now is pick up a couple tubes for him to hide in, a sturdy house/nest and one of those exercise balls!

Now - about his wheel. I looked it up online and a few websites told me that the best hamster wheels don't have rungs, they have a solid surface. The one that came with his cage is made out of a cheap plastic and it does have rungs. I noticed that his little feet were slipping through the rungs as he ran. Is this alright or should I go out and buy a better one without those rungs?

I have a couple of questions concerning his food. I haven't bought him a proper food dish yet, so I tried to find a makeshift one instead. So far, all I can seem to find around the house is the plastic top of a small tupperware container which seems to be the right size, but it's not deep enough, and I had that filled with food, but I noticed that the shavings on the bottom of the cage were getting mixed in with the food and I didn't like it, so I switched the plastic "dish" with a glass bowl sort of, very tiny, and it's raised, and he has no problem climbing into it to select his food. Is that fine, or do I need to buy a specially made hamster food dish?

My second question is as follows - how much should I be feeding him? Right now, I fill the glass dish up to the top, and of course it holds quite a bit of food for one little Syrian to eat, and the directions on hamster care sheets and on the food packages it tells me to give him new food daily, does that mean I have to throw away the food he doesn't eat? It seems like such a waste.

Just to be clear, I have done the research about owning a hamster prior to getting one, I'm just wondering about these things. Teddy is my second hamster I've owned.
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Now - about his wheel. I looked it up online and a few websites told me that the best hamster wheels don't have rungs, they have a solid surface. The one that came with his cage is made out of a cheap plastic and it does have rungs. I noticed that his little feet were slipping through the rungs as he ran. Is this alright or should I go out and buy a better one without those rungs?
You need to buy one without the rungs. Make sure it's at least 8inches in diameter.

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My second question is as follows - how much should I be feeding him? Right now, I fill the glass dish up to the top, and of course it holds quite a bit of food for one little Syrian to eat, and the directions on hamster care sheets and on the food packages it tells me to give him new food daily, does that mean I have to throw away the food he doesn't eat? It seems like such a waste.
I'm a cruel hamster mummy. I only top it up if it's getting empty. Otherwise they only pick their favourite bits out and leave the rest.

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I have a couple of questions concerning his food. I haven't bought him a proper food dish yet, so I tried to find a makeshift one instead. So far, all I can seem to find around the house is the plastic top of a small tupperware container which seems to be the right size, but it's not deep enough, and I had that filled with food, but I noticed that the shavings on the bottom of the cage were getting mixed in with the food and I didn't like it, so I switched the plastic "dish" with a glass bowl sort of, very tiny, and it's raised, and he has no problem climbing into it to select his food. Is that fine, or do I need to buy a specially made hamster food dish?
The food dish is a human invention. You hamster will not object if you just throw the food on the cage floor (though miss the bed and the toilet corner!). Cermamic bowls are best as the hamster can't tip them over or eat the bowl.

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I realize that you're supposed to let them get to know their new home for a few days, a week would be best, before handling them or disturbing them too much, so I've left him alone for the most part, except for when I took him out and played with him once. He seemed to be scared, and that would be obvious, considering he just got a new home, but he was also very fast and I looked up on Youtube videos about Syrians and they all seemed so calm and slow, and they let their owners handle them. Is he going to calm down? He seems to be eating, that's a good sign. The only thing I have to do now is pick up a couple tubes for him to hide in, a sturdy house/nest and one of those exercise balls!
Generally they calm down as they mature, but they are all individuals. Mine move almost constantly out the cage, but mostly at a pace I can catch them.
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Re: New hamster

Alright, thanks a bunch for your help. :3 I love Teddy, but I just wish he would be a tiny bit more active during the day.

Ooh, something I just thought of - I realize that hamsters wake up after sunset, but do they have like a little internal clock built into them that wakes them up and keeps them active after a specific time, no matter if the lights are on in their room?

In other words, do I have to play with him in the dark or can I wait until after sunset and switch on the light?
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Re: New hamster

I find that Alfie gets up when he wants! But does tend to get up when the lights are dim and its nearly dark!
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Re: New hamster

ive got 8 hamsters and they all seem to get up at different times,Pippin is always the 1st up around 4pm ...then i have a couple who dont get up until about 9pm....the rest somewhere in between, they do also pop out in the daytime but dont usually stay up for very long if ones up i always get them out so they can have some freedom.

good luck with your new addition....dont forget to post some piccys
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Re: New hamster

Awww well congratulations on your new hammy!! I too can't wait for pics hint hint

What kind of cage do you have...ie what are the dimensions? If it has a cheap wheel it is likely the pet shop sold you a wrongly sized cage for a Syrian....they do get quite big!!

Yeah your hammy should calm down. If you got him/her from a pet shop it may take slightly longer as they may not have been handled regularly. I got my Dini from someone who had handled her so whereas she was very tame...she was ULTRA quick as a baby. Calm, quiet talking and treats when they respond to you will help tame them!

Oh and yeah my Syrians tend to get up mid to late evening...from 8-9 all the way through till 12-1am. I have one dwarf who often doesn't get up till 6-7 am! xx
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Re: New hamster

I just scatter the food on the floor of the cage, it makes it more interesting for them because they have to find it all, I also sometimes put the food inside a cardboard toilet roll insert and stuff it tight with tissue so she has to tear up all the tissue to get to the food. It makes mealtimes more interesting.

I feed mine every two days, about a large heaped dessert spoon, my syrian at the moment stuffs all food into her mouth and moves it to her little stash so it can be hard sometimes to tell how much food she has left so it took my a while to figure out roughly how much to give her without starving her or having too much food go to waste. I never bothered with a dish after the first week because all she done with it was take all food out of it and then try and pull the dish (which was quite big) into her bed.
But every hamster is different, I had a pair of dwarfs that I had to use a dish with because they liked to just take a few bits at a time and eat those before coming back later for some more.

As regards wheels the silent spinner wheels are great, I think Iv heard people saying wodent wheels are good too.

After a while hamsters tend to alter their sleeping pattern to suit you a bit, when they're young they tend to be awake at night and sleep during the day but Iv found as they get older mine tend to wake up during the day a bit more if they hear me coming into the room. I could be completely wrong but that is just my observation with my own hamsters.
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ive got 8 hamsters and they all seem to get up at different times,Pippin is always the 1st up around 4pm ...then i have a couple who dont get up until about 9pm
Wow, eight hamsters! That seems like quite a handful, although I'm the type of person to have more than a couple of pets at once as well. :3 How old are they all?

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What kind of cage do you have...ie what are the dimensions?

I just measured it now, with a regular ruler, so the dimensions may be off a bit, but I got 15.5" x 10.5" x 15". It has a plastic base and a wire top, like a basic hamster cage. In the pet store, they had about three or four different sizes of hamster cages, one was very small, around $50, the other one that I got, $65, and then two more around $70-75. I figured I'd settle on a mid-sized hamster cage, it is two storeys so I thought it would be large enough.


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Yeah your hammy should calm down. If you got him/her from a pet shop it may take slightly longer as they may not have been handled regularly. I got my Dini from someone who had handled her so whereas she was very tame...she was ULTRA quick as a baby. Calm, quiet talking and treats when they respond to you will help tame them!
I sure hope he calms down, because I want to put him on my bed and pet him while he eats/explores, instead of always being on edge that he's running off - of course I'm not going to try this until I can handle him, I don't want to risk him falling off and injuring himself!

Also - I could tell that he hadn't ever been handled, or rarely, because he still seems to be scared of me when I put my hand in the cage. Yes, I've let him sniff me and crawl over my hand, but it's quite a hassle to pick him up, since he keeps wanting to escape. I'm sure he just needs some time.


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I just scatter the food on the floor of the cage, it makes it more interesting for them because they have to find it all, I also sometimes put the food inside a cardboard toilet roll insert and stuff it tight with tissue so she has to tear up all the tissue to get to the food. It makes mealtimes more interesting.
That's an interesting idea! Their noses are strong enough to sniff through wads of tissue paper? Because I may try that. :3
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Re: New hamster

I went to the pet store yesterday and bought him freeze-dried strawberry treats, an exercise ball, a new wheel and a little wooden house, although now that I think about it, he'll probably outgrow the house and the new wheel. I would've bought a bigger wheel, but it was the only one I could see that had no rungs.

There was another house I was quite fond of, with a little tower that you could fill with food, but the little opening where the food sat at the bottom seemed so tiny, and I noticed that hamsters like to sit in their food dish while they pick out their favourites, so I didn't buy it.

Is there a certain width that the wheel should be, so that it's big enough for a fully grown Syrian hamster? I also have another question - is there any way to tell a hamsters age? I realize that adult Syrians can grow up to 5-6", and I think Teddy is about 3-3.5" at the moment, so he's definitely not fully grown.

Also - I tried figuring out his sex by looking at his vent and anal opening, but all I could seem to see is one long opening when I lay him on his back on my hand, instead of two openings. When I used this image as a reference, the one that looked most like what I saw would be the female diagram - maybe I saw two openings but they were just placed close together and I didn't notice? Because I certainly do not remember seeing a "male scent gland" around his stomach. Maybe I should take a picture and you guys could help me out?

I've heard that hamsters can be trained to use a litter box - have you guys had any experience with this? I realize you should get a little dish/box that allows them to sit in it with high walls so they don't spray their urine everywhere. If you guys think I should try this, I hope my local pet store carries specific "litter boxes".

Last question - is there any behavioural differences in males and females? Like I've heard that some males are more aggressive, and some females are more cuddly, but I'm just wondering.

I'll upload some pictures of the little cutie soon!

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