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Re: Are Habitrail and Rotastak really all that evil?
I know I was being childish! xx
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Re: Are Habitrail and Rotastak really all that evil?
Thanks for the opinions guys
![]() As I said earlier I'm not trying to get everyone to buy or recommend these brands. I just get confused and annoyed sometimes with the comments I see posted at the mere mention of the words Habitrail and Rotastak, not necessarily just on here, but on a variety of sites. I couldn't work out where some of the negativity was coming from. |
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Re: Are Habitrail and Rotastak really all that evil?
Well I love ALL your set ups so you certainly have nothing to worry about
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MY ZOO-LET Syrian: Dini Winter Whites: Alaska, Apollo, Hero and Ares Bunnies: Saffy, Gus, Cookie and Cream and 5 babies!! Piggies: Bubble and Squeak RIP Tilly, Thom, Tiny, Cassius, Stuart Little, George, Baby Pom (Mice), Melvin (Chameleon) Harry (Cambells Russian) Charlie and Roma (Syrians) Eros (Winter White) Jet, Rainbow and Angel (Rabbits) Neva (Ratty girl) |
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im glad we're all friends now
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Re: Are Habitrail and Rotastak really all that evil?
hello, sorry im not sure if anyone still reads this thread but Im really happy I found it! I just got a Rotastak and have heard so many terrible reviews but I used to have one for my old syrian and even though he was a big boy he seemed perfectily happy and had plenty of space, managed to tubes no problem and never seemed to have any ventilation problems. However due to all the bad reviews I was getting myself very worried. I was thinking after all, in the wild the hamsters bury and go through tiny tubes that can be smaller than the ones in these cages. I mean ill still keep an eye on him or course but alot of these posts have helped me feel better about my choice to keep using this cage. I can see why people would get upset over the small setups but I think that is bad ownership rather than bad cage design. The pictures and descriptions of the ones on here looks/sound amazing! I am so glad to hear some postive reviews, I guess more people like complaining than complimenting!
![]() Anyway glad to be part of the forum and if anyone has any tips on how to improve the Rotastak cages etc for increased ventilation etc feel free to let me know. (also sorry for the rant hehe) |
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Re: Are Habitrail and Rotastak really all that evil?
The worst thing about Rotastak is you cannot add a Syrian sized wheel, without adding a different brand of cage or a plastic bin cage. It's just not possible anywhere in Rotastak to add at least an 8inch wheel for the smallest Syrian, never mind a 12 inch if you get a large Syrian.
Secondly, yes, in the wild hamsters do burrow in tunnels, however they also spend a lot of time running above ground, which Rotastak (and other modular cages) simply do not allow. I'd smash them all up if I had my way, but sadly, I don't ![]() |
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Re: Are Habitrail and Rotastak really all that evil?
Sorry for linking to another website and the like, but I feel that this page explains how I feel about rotastak and other cages perfectly:
crittery.co.uk - Why modular systems are bad for your pet I used to keep my hamsters in rotastak, and oh my goodness they performed SO many abnormal behaviours. (even though their cages were probably bigger than all of the cages listed so far, and they were handled every single day for at least an hour and a half) Obsessive digging, obsessive chewing, etc... I moved them to the tanks which were probably slightly smaller, and the behaviours stopped almost comletely. I still kept the tubes and small beds in the cages because it offered them a tunnel network, which they loved, and I still like offering them that kind of cage today. Maybe I'm completely alone in this, but the abnormal behaviours were a huge problem for me. They woke up, chewed the bars of their cage, tried to dig at the plastic, repeated the last two for hours, and went to sleep again. Maybe it wasn't the rotastak that was the problem, and maybe it doesn't offer those problems for other people, but it did for me. |
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Re: Are Habitrail and Rotastak really all that evil?
Yeah I can see what your saying, problem with the chewing thing I found that when hamsters are in cages with metal bars they chew at the bars so much they hurt their faces cos they are pushing at the same time and they end up with lines down the side of the cute little faces, I found before that if they have plenty if other things to chew they dont do that as much. Basically will just see how it goes with this cage and if I have any problems ill just have to try selling it on and get something else. Fingers crossed the hamster will be happy, and he will definetly be spending plenty of time out side the cage anyway
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